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14th September 2024, 01:39 PM | #1 |
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Small Sword Dutch or French
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Picked up this small sword recently and whilst the blade id hexagonal not uncommon on some Dutch examples, this style also pops up on British, German and French small swords. The blade is engraved with the motto Pro Deo Et Religione vera (latin: For God and the true religion). This sounds rather catholic to me which is making me lean towards France, Italy or perhaps Spain. It is unmarked silver with an ivory grip that appears original to the sword, no signs of it having been taken apart. I am thinking it probably dates around 1740. Nay thoughts on its age and origin considering the religious slogan would be most appreciated. Cheers Cathey |
15th September 2024, 05:27 AM | #2 |
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A beautiful sword! The reeded grip is something we start to see a bit later. A feature that carries on through the 19th century. The ivory looks like old Russian mammoth. Brown bark.
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15th September 2024, 09:52 AM | #3 |
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What a lovely smallsword Cathey, that motto is a fantastic feature. Personally I think its’ presence means that France can be excluded as the origin. To me it says “I’m catholic and proud of it”, in a countries like France, Spain or Italy, this would have been a forgone conclusion and not something that needs to be said.
I my view, this motto assumes that the wearer lived in a country where there was tension between the catholics and (presumably) protestants. Such as the British Isles, The Netherlands or the German states. With the addition of the ivory grips, I think it leans towards the British Isles, possibly the English and Scottish border? |
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Catholic moto in Latin on small sword
Hi Hotspur and Radboud
Interesting thoughts, I confess I have not see Latin used on swords from Germany or the Netherlands and I agree it appear to be a very Catholic moto. The hilt is solid silver but not hall marked suggesting it was made as a special order according to AYLWARD-J-D The Small Sword in England Pp 93. The use of Ivory did make me think Dutch or perhaps Hotspur is correct and could be Russian, but this Catholic Latin inscription does not seem to fit with either Holland or Russia. The photos were taken before the sword was cleaned, silver is easier to photograph when its not too bright. Cheers Cathey |
16th September 2024, 08:46 PM | #5 |
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A very breathtaking small sword, and not at all surprising that Cathey's discerning eye puts it with her amazing holdings.
Actually the Latin motto, 'Pro Deo et Religione Vera' has to do with the teachings and following of St.Augustine of Hippo 354-430AD (this was an area in Algeria). Most of this I simply found online, but apparently his following was not confined to the Catholic Faith, but also to Eastern Orthodox (Greek Orthodox) and Lutheran Faiths. Perhaps this particular phrase or motto might have applied to one of the fraternal or military orders? The character of this religious phrase IMO does not confine the blade or sword to a particular nationality or country as these followings transcended geographic boundaries. The note on the fact that this hilt, despite being silver, is not hallmarked. As Cathey notes, Aylward (1945) does mention this absence of hallmarks (p.69); "...their absence almost certainly means the hilt was made to the order of its original owner". He notes further that though technically outside the law, it seemed unnecessary to submit the work to a touch-warden if the bullion was supplied by the client himself. What I think is important about this absence of touch mark, perhaps the client who had this hilt made used an important heirloom or item of key importance in a reliquary sense to furnish bullion? Obviously this sword has religious and highly symbolic value, so this does not seem far fetched. The style of the hilt corresponds to those in vogue in England 1720s-1740s which of course is hardly defined by that period alone. There were apparently numbers of French Huguenots who had fled to England after the revoking of the Edict of Nantes (1685) and it is tempting to think this might account for a sword of this character without a touchmark as well. With the reeded ivory grip, while this type grip became popular in France and America in the 18th century, it was well known on rapiers of Spain and the Netherlands in the mid 17th c. The sources of ivory included a number of places along with the Russian mammoth variety, with the narwhals often providing material to India and Central Asia and elephants from Africa. It has always amazed me that these can be identified from photos as I dont know these specifics. Whatever the case, IMO the material used regardless of source does not necessarily confine the provenance of the weapon embellished with it to that area. Last edited by Jim McDougall; 17th September 2024 at 05:35 AM. |
17th September 2024, 05:40 AM | #6 |
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Choice of decorative theme
Thanks Jim
I thought I might review each component of the sword by way of trying to ascertain its manufacture and have come up with the following:
Not sure if any of this helps of course. |
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