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Old 22nd March 2017, 05:38 PM   #1
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Hello everyone, I have had this dagger for some time and have not been sure whether it is a working or tourist piece so am hoping that more knowledgeable members will enlighten me. It is a well made item having a double edged blade with central fuller with hard wood hilt and carved scabbard both of which are bound with brass wire.

O/L is 14.5 ins having a 9.875 ins blade x 1.5 ins wide reducing to a narrow point.
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Old 23rd March 2017, 03:42 PM   #2
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Old 23rd March 2017, 04:02 PM   #3
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Old 24th March 2017, 12:45 PM   #5
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A nice old example of this type of dagger, with the wirework undamaged. Congratulations. Although usually described as "Shona", this type of weapon was I believe, also used by other tribes further north into Malawi, such as the Yao...
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Old 24th March 2017, 04:53 PM   #6
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Thank you Colin for your informative reply, it is much appreciated. I wasn't aware that this type of dagger was used by other tribes, do they make their own or are they traded by the Shona? I would like to see how they did the wire decoration, it is so neat and tight on the wood. Thanks again.
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Old 24th March 2017, 10:52 PM   #7
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Hello Miguel,

can you provide some closeups from the wooden parts, the binding and the blade?

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Old 25th March 2017, 08:49 AM   #8
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Thank you Colin for your informative reply, it is much appreciated. I wasn't aware that this type of dagger was used by other tribes, do they make their own or are they traded by the Shona? I would like to see how they did the wire decoration, it is so neat and tight on the wood. Thanks again.
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I imagine the various tribal groups had their own craftsmen, who did such work. I have seen that type of wirework on different objects such as sticks, spear shafts, fly-whisks and the like. Often beautifully done. Although Africans did manufacture wire in the historic period, I think the wire itself used here is probably European in origin, the plaiting done in Africa.

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can you provide some closeups from the wooden parts, the binding and the blade?

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Hello Detlef,

I will provide some close-ups but I wont be able to provide them very quickly as I will be out of town next week and then I will have to get the dagger out of storage to take the pics, sorry about that.
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Old 25th March 2017, 04:38 PM   #10
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I imagine the various tribal groups had their own craftsmen, who did such work. I have seen that type of wirework on different objects such as sticks, spear shafts, fly-whisks and the like. Often beautifully done. Although Africans did manufacture wire in the historic period, I think the wire itself used here is probably European in origin, the plaiting done in Africa.

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Thanks Colin for your comments they were much appreciated.

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I will provide some close-ups but I wont be able to provide them very quickly as I will be out of town next week and then I will have to get the dagger out of storage to take the pics, sorry about that.
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Hello Detlef,

I have taken some fresh pics with close-ups as requested.
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I have taken some fresh pics with close-ups as requested.
Hi Miguel,

thank you for the much better pictures. Definitely not a tourist piece but a very nice dagger made for tribal use. First half of 20th century?

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