Mini Yatagan information, anybody seen one before?

sfenoid13 · 27th February 2017, 09:50 PM

I just acquired this miniature Yatagan which seems to have an excellent workmanship, much better in person than in pictures. Has anyone sen one before? Who makes these? How rare is it?

Kubur · 27th February 2017, 10:29 PM

I have an answer but I'm not sure you will like it...

sfenoid13 · 28th February 2017, 03:50 AM

Yes I like that a lot

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eftihis · 28th February 2017, 09:17 AM

This is not exactly a miniature, it is a small knife in the form of a large yataghan!

sfenoid13 · 28th February 2017, 04:34 PM

Efithis, that is a beatiful knife. How big is it though? Can you place it next to a regular sized knife or a pencil and take a picture for comparison?
Where did you get yours? If it is a very small size it looks very similar to mine. Do you have others like it?

digenis · 28th February 2017, 05:31 PM

When I was in Sarajevo, Bosnia I hung out in the old bazaar area of town (looking for old weapons...). During this time I befriended many of the local antique dealers. They showed me numerous antique miniature items that would have been common items during in Ottoman times (plates, jugs, trays, vases, etc.) They claimed that these items were created as part of the "exam" the local metalworkers guild required to advance from apprentice to journeyman metalworker.

If this is true (it is the Balkans after all...) maybe the miniature yataghan shares a similar back story.

ALEX · 6th March 2017, 12:23 PM

Some miniature arms were made as souvenirs and/or letter openers of course, some as children practice or toys and some were made with the same grade, materials and techniques as originals. They are not uncommon and quite collectible. Another form of the kind is Indian miniature paintings of arms, and better "3D" examples are very desirable and thought after. Here is a complete set of different miniature arms in original box, mid-late 20thC and relatively well made.

sfenoid13 · 6th March 2017, 03:47 PM

Alex,
I have never see these before. they look pretty nice and uniques. Did they come in the boxes? So they are a collection made by the same craftsman? Also it would be nice to see the blades if we may. Are the handles made form actual horn or is it wood? I would like to see more pictures if possible. thanks

ALEX · 6th March 2017, 04:33 PM

They came in one box, all made by the same master. Considering how small they are its pretty impressive work. All are functional with steel blades. Each is attached to the velvet backing of the box with silk threads, possibly to keep them safe, and apparently it worked.. nothing gone missing since).

sfenoid13 · 17th March 2017, 08:40 PM

They are fascinating. would you be able to show some of the blades out of the scabbards?

27th February 2017, 09:50 PM	#1
sfenoid13 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 134	Mini Yatagan information, anybody seen one before? I just acquired this miniature Yatagan which seems to have an excellent workmanship, much better in person than in pictures. Has anyone sen one before? Who makes these? How rare is it? Attached Images

27th February 2017, 10:29 PM	#2
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	I have an answer but I'm not sure you will like it... Attached Images

28th February 2017, 09:17 AM	#4
eftihis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chania Crete Greece Posts: 500	This is not exactly a miniature, it is a small knife in the form of a large yataghan! Attached Images

6th March 2017, 12:23 PM	#7
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Some miniature arms were made as souvenirs and/or letter openers of course, some as children practice or toys and some were made with the same grade, materials and techniques as originals. They are not uncommon and quite collectible. Another form of the kind is Indian miniature paintings of arms, and better "3D" examples are very desirable and thought after. Here is a complete set of different miniature arms in original box, mid-late 20thC and relatively well made. Attached Images

28th February 2017, 03:50 AM	#3
sfenoid13 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 134	Yes I like that a lot )

28th February 2017, 04:34 PM	#5
sfenoid13 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 134	Efithis, that is a beatiful knife. How big is it though? Can you place it next to a regular sized knife or a pencil and take a picture for comparison? Where did you get yours? If it is a very small size it looks very similar to mine. Do you have others like it?

28th February 2017, 05:31 PM	#6
digenis Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 48	When I was in Sarajevo, Bosnia I hung out in the old bazaar area of town (looking for old weapons...). During this time I befriended many of the local antique dealers. They showed me numerous antique miniature items that would have been common items during in Ottoman times (plates, jugs, trays, vases, etc.) They claimed that these items were created as part of the "exam" the local metalworkers guild required to advance from apprentice to journeyman metalworker. If this is true (it is the Balkans after all...) maybe the miniature yataghan shares a similar back story.

6th March 2017, 03:47 PM	#8
sfenoid13 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 134	Alex, I have never see these before. they look pretty nice and uniques. Did they come in the boxes? So they are a collection made by the same craftsman? Also it would be nice to see the blades if we may. Are the handles made form actual horn or is it wood? I would like to see more pictures if possible. thanks

6th March 2017, 04:33 PM	#9
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	They came in one box, all made by the same master. Considering how small they are its pretty impressive work. All are functional with steel blades. Each is attached to the velvet backing of the box with silk threads, possibly to keep them safe, and apparently it worked.. nothing gone missing since).

17th March 2017, 08:40 PM	#10
sfenoid13 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 134	They are fascinating. would you be able to show some of the blades out of the scabbards?