Opinion on Sold Ebay Shamshir

ALEX · 26th January 2006, 11:33 AM

This was sold on Ebay last week (Item 6593980441):

http://cgi.ebay.com/TURKISH-OTTOMAN-...QQcmdZViewItem

I have very similar sword (no point to post pictures since it's almost a copy) BUT:

- The scabbard on mine (and I know for fact) is NEW - made about a year ago. I've heard it has been reproduced based on some catalog picture of an old Syrian style of scabbard (Have you heard/seen those?)
- How about the statement - the blade is the original black damascus steel ( about 300 years old ) ? Any comments based on a pattern?
- IMHO, it's kind of short????

Rivkin · 26th January 2006, 01:41 PM

Imho it is a rather newly made scabbard and koftgari, the blade is probably somewhat old. Just my 2c.

erlikhan · 26th January 2006, 03:57 PM

I requested close ups of this shamshir during the auction and saw that the scabbard, its mountings and cross guard are all new and silver koftgari cheaply done. Blade must be old.

RSWORD · 26th January 2006, 04:32 PM

It is most probably a piece mounted up in Syria with all new fittings and koftgari utilizing an older Shamshir blade. Hard to tell the coloration of the blade in the pictures but the wootz pattern seems typical of Syrian/Turkish wootz.

26th January 2006, 11:33 AM	#1
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 935	Opinion on Sold Ebay Shamshir This was sold on Ebay last week (Item 6593980441): http://cgi.ebay.com/TURKISH-OTTOMAN-...QQcmdZViewItem I have very similar sword (no point to post pictures since it's almost a copy) BUT: - The scabbard on mine (and I know for fact) is NEW - made about a year ago. I've heard it has been reproduced based on some catalog picture of an old Syrian style of scabbard (Have you heard/seen those?) - How about the statement - the blade is the original black damascus steel ( about 300 years old ) ? Any comments based on a pattern? - IMHO, it's kind of short????

26th January 2006, 01:41 PM	#2
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	Imho it is a rather newly made scabbard and koftgari, the blade is probably somewhat old. Just my 2c.

26th January 2006, 03:57 PM	#3
erlikhan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Istanbul Posts: 452	I requested close ups of this shamshir during the auction and saw that the scabbard, its mountings and cross guard are all new and silver koftgari cheaply done. Blade must be old.

26th January 2006, 04:32 PM	#4
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,083	It is most probably a piece mounted up in Syria with all new fittings and koftgari utilizing an older Shamshir blade. Hard to tell the coloration of the blade in the pictures but the wootz pattern seems typical of Syrian/Turkish wootz.