12th November 2024, 07:45 PM | #1 |
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Horn hilted Yataghan, Is it Arabic or gibberish?
Hello All,
I recently acquired this, my second Yataghan. It's a little beat up, but I'm still happy with it, especially give the price. My other Yataghan, previously posted to the forum, has a gibberish (Arab-ish?) inscription on it, which I understand, is not uncommon on 19th century Balkan yataghans. I'm wondering if the inscription here this is the same? Any opinions? And also a bit of a family photo, staged with a couple other things from (*or inspired by) my recent trip to Sarajevo. Have fun, Leif |
13th November 2024, 10:22 PM | #2 |
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Looks Balkan, perhaps Bosnian.
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14th November 2024, 02:05 AM | #3 |
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could you specify "gibberish" or why you come to call it "gibberish"?
Also in order to determine anything, the sizes / dimensions of the yathagan might be helpfull.... Tip: perhaps my articles in this forum on the Ottoman Bosnian cold arms ( amongst it languages on blades of bichaqs and yataghans and items in Balkan museums) will assist you further.... FYI: the Fez shown on the pictue might either be from : 1. the Bosniaken K.u.K Infantery Regiments I to IV https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnia...inian_Infantry or 2. the 13. or 21. Waffen-Gebirgs-Division of the SS Handschar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_W..._(1st_Croatian) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21st_W..._SS_Skanderbeg or (what is recently often seen) a recent copy made for either historical enactment or fake copies of the original ones an indication might be the pet-badge or holes in the Fez where these badges used to be ( enclosed some pics of the K.u.K. Habsburgian ones) Last edited by gp; 14th November 2024 at 03:01 AM. |
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It is absolutely modern. I bought it from a vender in Baščaršija in August. It's just there for fun. :-) Thanks, Leif |
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14th November 2024, 07:15 PM | #5 | |
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One small difference or addition: in former Yugoslavia, specially Bosnia, they had , used their own language…also in Arabic lettering. I have placed somewhere an overviewof that alfabet in Bosnian Arabic scripture and will look it up and ad it here again. That might often be the cause for (mis)understanding it as “ gibberish” if one looks or reads it with either Turkish or Arabic language skills. A second “challenge”, rather less occurring, might be an illiterate or person with limited written knowledge (a villager or so) trying to do his best… But this one is the real McCoy! Although it looks a little rude, the writing is in a beautiful condition and also the length of 28.5 and the grip specially is also proof you have a real one you can compare it to the writing on some of mine : http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...02&postcount=6 Try to rubb some gum / rubber eraser over the writting: it will bring it back to some more beauty! Lucky you got if from Baščaršija;I used to live close to there mid 80ies for some months each year. The most of the cold weapons disappeared after the tragic events in the 90ies… Sold to mostly all the foreign NATO soldiers who were based their to implement the Dayton agreement after 1996. Next most antique shops and silver jewelry shops who had them closed as well. Take care and have a nice day ! Gunar Last edited by gp; 15th November 2024 at 01:05 AM. |
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14th November 2024, 08:49 PM | #6 |
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found it, Bosnian in Arab scripture: see # 10
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ure#post287035 and also here http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=28326 http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...har#post270932 some more to read ( is legal to be downloaded ) : https://www.researchgate.net/publica...e_Banat_Museum BR Gunar Last edited by gp; 14th November 2024 at 10:21 PM. |
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