Keris Salayer ?

henri · 16th April 2012, 07:19 AM

Dear members ,
I would like to get your opinions for this keris .
Different possibilities and very confusing .
The blade fit perfectly into the sheath so looks like both originals .
Some say that could be Salayer on South Celebes ( hilt and blade shape without pamor ) , some Malaysian or Sumatran for the sheath half moon and the the inlaid blade other West coast of Borneo for the hilt ...
Thank you

Henri

henri · 16th April 2012, 07:20 AM

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Alam Shah · 16th April 2012, 07:44 AM

Hi Henri, interesting ensemble you've got there. The hilt is uniquely Salayar, "Pangulu Le'ngo" (le'nga) form, as it's called by the locals. The interesting keris blade, I cannot confirm. The hilt cup (pendokok, kili-kili) is Sumatran. The sari bulan sheath, may be Sumatran or Peninsular Malay to me. Overall a nice find, congrats!

dbhmgb · 16th April 2012, 11:24 AM

Indeed, a very nice keris. That hilt is quite fascinating!

asomotif · 16th April 2012, 12:01 PM

Lovely keris Henri.

The hilt is indeed very salayer.
But how would a salayer blade look like. is there a specific salayer blade style ?

Best regards,
Willem

kai · 16th April 2012, 05:24 PM

Nice grab for sure - congrats, Henri!

IMHO, the blade also seems to have a Straits feel to it. My best guess would be that this is a Sumatran/Straits keris that found its way into the hands of a Salayer/Selayer owner who decided to rehilt it according to local fashion. The pesi is weird though - has anyone disassembled a Selayer badik or two?

Regards,
Kai

Sajen · 16th April 2012, 07:29 PM

Hello Henri,

very good grab you have done with this keris! For the hilt you can look as well to this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=badik

Agree with kai that the pesi is a little bit weird. BTW, I never have disassembled my Salayer badik and can't tell if the pesi is similar.

Again, a very interesting keris and I am a little bit green with envy!

Regards,

Detlef

16th April 2012, 07:19 AM	#1
henri Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 81	Keris Salayer ? Dear members , I would like to get your opinions for this keris . Different possibilities and very confusing . The blade fit perfectly into the sheath so looks like both originals . Some say that could be Salayer on South Celebes ( hilt and blade shape without pamor ) , some Malaysian or Sumatran for the sheath half moon and the the inlaid blade other West coast of Borneo for the hilt ... Thank you Henri Attached Images

16th April 2012, 07:20 AM	#2
henri Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 81	more photos Attached Images

16th April 2012, 07:44 AM	#3
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Hi Henri, interesting ensemble you've got there. The hilt is uniquely Salayar, "Pangulu Le'ngo" (le'nga) form, as it's called by the locals. The interesting keris blade, I cannot confirm. The hilt cup (pendokok, kili-kili) is Sumatran. The sari bulan sheath, may be Sumatran or Peninsular Malay to me. Overall a nice find, congrats!

16th April 2012, 11:24 AM	#4
dbhmgb Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 112	Indeed, a very nice keris. That hilt is quite fascinating!

16th April 2012, 12:01 PM	#5
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,221	Lovely keris Henri. The hilt is indeed very salayer. But how would a salayer blade look like. is there a specific salayer blade style ? Best regards, Willem

16th April 2012, 05:24 PM	#6
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,218	Nice grab for sure - congrats, Henri! IMHO, the blade also seems to have a Straits feel to it. My best guess would be that this is a Sumatran/Straits keris that found its way into the hands of a Salayer/Selayer owner who decided to rehilt it according to local fashion. The pesi is weird though - has anyone disassembled a Selayer badik or two? Regards, Kai

16th April 2012, 07:29 PM	#7
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,497	Hello Henri, very good grab you have done with this keris! For the hilt you can look as well to this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=badik Agree with kai that the pesi is a little bit weird. BTW, I never have disassembled my Salayer badik and can't tell if the pesi is similar. Again, a very interesting keris and I am a little bit green with envy! Regards, Detlef