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Old 29th July 2006, 02:05 AM   #1
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Default A plain old Sundang for comment

I was a bit worried about this one. The fact that I won it with a bid much lower than they've been selling for lately had me thinking that it might be junk.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1

But it's a nice "armoury grade" sundang. The pommel is nice wood. Interestingly the whole hilt isn't made of the same wood. Cost saving? Baca baca are copper or copper alloy. Blade is in pretty good shape, and sharp, and thirsty for blood. Still have most of my little finger. Light lamination and hardened edges. Separate gangya. It's going to take some work to put it back together, but should be a fun project. One nickel silver band, some are probably lost.
Thanks for any comments or info.

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Blade after cleaning and light etching.




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Old 29th July 2006, 02:07 AM   #2
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Old 29th July 2006, 03:19 AM   #3
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IMO its a nice piece. You just have to have the hilt wrapped with something nice like rattan.
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Old 29th July 2006, 09:57 AM   #4
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Hello Steve, i like it!!! Congrats
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Old 9th August 2006, 03:58 AM   #5
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hei, steve. it is nice to have one like yours
Good shape, and look sharp to me.
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Old 9th August 2006, 04:14 AM   #6
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Very nice sword! I really ought to get one.

Does the lack of rhon-dha/greneng occur often in these kris? Or was this blade perhaps left unfinished?

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Old 9th August 2006, 02:28 PM   #7
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Very nice sword! I really ought to get one.

Does the lack of rhon-dha/greneng occur often in these kris? Or was this blade perhaps left unfinished?

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I have seen this lack of greneng before but I have no knowlege of the reason ; I don't believe that this is all that common .
If we follow Cato's typology (shudder) this is a Maranao kris ; my Maranao example has the greneng cut in.

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Old 9th August 2006, 03:50 PM   #8
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When I visited one of my regular local sword dealers in Manila a few eyars ago, he had a similar kris without the filework on the greneng. He said this was likely a kris made in a hurry for someone, such as for an imminent conflict, and that it was lost before the greneng could be completed. Makes sense, but who knows if it applies here.

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Old 10th August 2006, 03:24 AM   #9
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Hi Ferguson,
Thanks for posting the picture of your hilt. I have one very much like it but the pommel is missing. There is a square hole in the back of my hilt that the pommel must have plugged into. My hilt is of rectangular section like yours and has a silver band to cover the hilt/pommel gap as does yours. The wrapping on my hilt is missing but there is a curious copper ferrule that extends down slightly over the sides of the ganja. One other odd thing, there is a piece of old, thin but coarse cloth in the pommel plug hole. I don't see any evidence of glue on the cloth. could it be that the pommel plug was wrapped in the cloth and pressure fit into the hilt in the same fashion as a keris blade is cloth wrapped and fitted to the hilt?
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Old 10th August 2006, 10:48 AM   #10
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Steve,

Looks like a solid, honest old user, not you, but the sundang!

Congratulations on getting it. Blade looks good. A worthwhile restoration project!
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