New jambiya for comment

Battara · 28th February 2006, 08:11 PM

Here is a new jambiya that just came in the mail. Hilt of silver and toe, scabbard of leather covered wood. I think it was for an arab in India or at least with Indian influence.

Lew · 28th February 2006, 09:06 PM

Nice one Battara I was looking at that one on ebay. I have a similar one that I picked up from Artzi last year at the show. I think it is Yemen or Omani and not Indian.

Lew

Valjhun · 28th February 2006, 09:17 PM

A Yemeni jambiya I believe, (Omani has some attaching rings on the scabbard). Nothing indian, but the scabbard indeed looks almost like a kukri one. Nice piece.

Battara · 2nd March 2006, 07:05 PM

The Indian influence to which I refer comes from the type of leather scabbard that is typical of India. This is not unusual since there have been Indians trading on the coast of the Arabian penninsula and Arabs on the Indian coast.

BluErf · 3rd March 2006, 01:20 AM

Oh, very desirable piece!

Were full silver hilts traditional? Because nearly all pieces I've seen comes with horn hilts. A rare few comes with wooden or suspected amber hilts.

Battara · 3rd March 2006, 01:25 AM

Actually, silver hilts are common, although not of this quality. Oman and Yemen make a lot of silver hilts.

BluErf · 3rd March 2006, 02:28 AM

The more I look at this, the more I get this "I want one too" feeling.

Have to keep reminding myself I'm a keris collector...

Dom · 3rd March 2006, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valjhun

A Yemeni jambiya I believe, (Omani has some attaching rings on the scabbard). Nothing indian, but the scabbard indeed looks almost like a kukri one. Nice piece.

well see

here from my collection
- Yemeni Jambiya
- Omani/Emirati Khanjar

Battara · 5th March 2006, 09:37 PM

OOPPSS! Looks like you folks are right on the money.

It is Yemen after all (though the leather scabbard is exactly like some of those in India). It once belonged to Artzi and he describes it as 19 century:

http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=1519

Here is a picture sold long ago:

fernando · 6th March 2006, 07:50 PM

I think i see what Battara means about the scabbard.
When i bought my yemenite silver mounted jambyia, i went look for info at the Web and, the inumerous silver hilted jambyias out there, also have the scabbard made of silver, with the same or similar decoration patterns. Rather than an export piece, could it be that the scabbard is a replacement ?
Sorry for so basic question, is there any inscription in the back of the grip ?

Lew · 7th March 2006, 04:22 AM

Fernando

The scabbard is a standard for that region of Yemen it is not a replacement. Here is one from my collection note the scabbards are of the same material and design.

Lew

fernando · 7th March 2006, 06:33 PM

Quite Right, Lew.
Thank you.

28th February 2006, 08:11 PM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	New jambiya for comment Here is a new jambiya that just came in the mail. Hilt of silver and toe, scabbard of leather covered wood. I think it was for an arab in India or at least with Indian influence. Attached Images

5th March 2006, 09:37 PM	#9
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	OOPPSS! Looks like you folks are right on the money. It is Yemen after all (though the leather scabbard is exactly like some of those in India). It once belonged to Artzi and he describes it as 19 century: http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=1519 Here is a picture sold long ago: Attached Images

7th March 2006, 04:22 AM	#11
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Fernando The scabbard is a standard for that region of Yemen it is not a replacement. Here is one from my collection note the scabbards are of the same material and design. Lew Attached Images

28th February 2006, 09:06 PM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Nice one Battara I was looking at that one on ebay. I have a similar one that I picked up from Artzi last year at the show. I think it is Yemen or Omani and not Indian. Lew

28th February 2006, 09:17 PM	#3
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	A Yemeni jambiya I believe, (Omani has some attaching rings on the scabbard). Nothing indian, but the scabbard indeed looks almost like a kukri one. Nice piece.

2nd March 2006, 07:05 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	The Indian influence to which I refer comes from the type of leather scabbard that is typical of India. This is not unusual since there have been Indians trading on the coast of the Arabian penninsula and Arabs on the Indian coast.

3rd March 2006, 01:20 AM	#5
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Oh, very desirable piece! Were full silver hilts traditional? Because nearly all pieces I've seen comes with horn hilts. A rare few comes with wooden or suspected amber hilts.

3rd March 2006, 01:25 AM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	Actually, silver hilts are common, although not of this quality. Oman and Yemen make a lot of silver hilts.

3rd March 2006, 02:28 AM	#7
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	The more I look at this, the more I get this "I want one too" feeling. Have to keep reminding myself I'm a keris collector...

6th March 2006, 07:50 PM	#10
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,642	I think i see what Battara means about the scabbard. When i bought my yemenite silver mounted jambyia, i went look for info at the Web and, the inumerous silver hilted jambyias out there, also have the scabbard made of silver, with the same or similar decoration patterns. Rather than an export piece, could it be that the scabbard is a replacement ? Sorry for so basic question, is there any inscription in the back of the grip ?

7th March 2006, 06:33 PM	#12
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,642	Quite Right, Lew. Thank you.