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Old 11th August 2013, 02:50 PM   #1
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Default Hairy Indonesian spear for discussion

Have get this spear and I think that it is Indonesian. The spear point is a pamor blade, the ferrule from brass and the shaft from black wood seems to be shortened. Attached are two different sorts of hair, the longer ones are brown and thicker, the short hairs are thinner and dyed red. Would like to know from where this spear coming. Could it be from Sulawesi? I am nearly sure that it isn't from Java or Bali. The spear is 124 cm with scabbard, the point is 19,5 cm without tang.
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Old 12th August 2013, 02:08 AM   #2
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Yes I'd say Indonesian with that ferrule and blade. Not seen one with hair though......
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Old 12th August 2013, 03:31 AM   #3
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Thank you Jose. I think I've seen spears from Sulawesi with hairs but can't remember where.
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Thank you Jose. I think I've seen spears from Sulawesi with hairs but can't remember where.
Yes you're right, possibly Sulawesi!

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Thank you Maurice for confirming!
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Old 12th August 2013, 01:35 PM   #6
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Here two old photo's from ca 1911.
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Here two old photo's from ca 1911.
Thank you for posting this interesting pictures!
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Thank you for posting this interesting pictures!
Any time Detlef! Glad you like them!
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Old 24th August 2013, 08:38 PM   #9
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I say Sulawesi as well based on RMV Leiden database.

I guess you missed this picture which was a little in the wrong (sumara) thread...

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I say Sulawesi as well based on RMV Leiden database.

I guess you missed this picture which was a little in the wrong (sumara) thread...

Best regards,
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Hi Willem,

thank you for the picture which I missed indeed and for confirming my guess about the origin.

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