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Old 9th June 2019, 02:10 PM   #1
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Default Is it possible to identify the pamor on this Madura Keris

Hi all,

Is it possible to identify the pamor on this Madura Keris based on the photo's?

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Old 9th June 2019, 02:40 PM   #2
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Beras wutah!
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Old 9th June 2019, 09:15 PM   #3
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Beras wutah for me too
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thanks for the info

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Old 10th June 2019, 09:54 AM   #5
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Ngulit Semangka
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Old 10th June 2019, 11:42 AM   #6
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Perhaps you might like to explain why you favour ngulit semongko over wos wutah Marco?
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Perhaps you might like to explain why you favour ngulit semongko over wos wutah Marco?


IMO because the blade has very little layers
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Old 10th June 2019, 12:06 PM   #8
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Yes, there are very few layers of pamor material remaining on this blade, it is heavily eroded, but if we look at the pamor nearest to the gonjo, those layers are not really the heavy layers that we find in ngulit semongko.

I feel that most people would probably give this as wos wutah (beras wutah), as they do with just about any random mlumah pamor that does not display the very broad bands of ngulit semongko or a manipulated surface.

Personally, I'm reluctant to give the pamor a name, it is too heavily eroded for me to guess what it might have looked like when it was new. I think I'd be happy enough just to give it as "random pattern", or "mlumah".
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Yes, there are very few layers of pamor material remaining on this blade, it is heavily eroded, but if we look at the pamor nearest to the gonjo, those layers are not really the heavy layers that we find in ngulit semongko.

I feel that most people would probably give this as wos wutah (beras wutah), as they do with just about any random mlumah pamor that does not display the very broad bands of ngulit semongko or a manipulated surface.

Personally, I'm reluctant to give the pamor a name, it is too heavily eroded for me to guess what it might have looked like when it was new. I think I'd be happy enough just to give it as "random pattern", or "mlumah".

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