what is this?

HUSAR · 28th August 2008, 07:50 PM

hello i have been not on line for a while...
please see pictures below and maybe you have an idea what kind of object is this iron shaft, i will take some better pictures during weekend, this "mace" is around 40cm long,, heavy 1-2 kg octagonal, welded and brass inlaid in arabic ? sentences
thank you in advance for help....Husar

kronckew · 28th August 2008, 08:21 PM

bar mace? how long is it?

HUSAR · 28th August 2008, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kronckew

bar mace? how long is it?

about 40 cm, just have found out that one symbol is coptic cross and another trinity .... so origin seems to be from Egypt?

Dom · 29th August 2008, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by HUSAR

so origin seems to be from Egypt?

negative, not from Egypt, I'm formal

under reserves,
may be to 've a look to or around Ethiopia

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Dom

Yannis · 29th August 2008, 07:45 AM

If it is fit enough to enter in a pistol barrel, it is a ramrod

kronckew · 29th August 2008, 09:08 AM

quite possible, is the swollen end dished? octagonal x-section is a bit unusual. looks like it'd be for a serious calibre.

ramrods were frequently separated from their weapons in the heat of battle. many a trooper has fired his ramrod down range in the heat of an encounter, which is very embarrassing when he has to explain what happened to it (presuming he survived).

one of my favourite episodes of 'Sharp' is when the evil french spy Duclos sends two french cavalrymen, sabres drawn, charging down on Sgt. Harper, telling them he can only have time to shoot one of them, the survivor would get a handsome reward, (muzzle loading rifles of the period took a bit more time reloading than a musket as well) anyhow harper shoots one, pours in some powder & priming, & shoots the ramrod into the 2nd ...

David · 29th August 2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by HUSAR

about 40 cm, just have found out that one symbol is coptic cross and another trinity .... so origin seems to be from Egypt?

Interesting object. I am not yet convinced that is a coptic cross. The symbols seem to have magickal significance, but you pics don't really show them very well or the script which also appears on the shaft. Can you make clearer photos without all that glare?
I seriously doubt that this was intended as a ramrod. What are the dimensions? Is it solid steel/iron?

Mark · 29th August 2008, 02:56 PM

What does the other end look like? Any signs of wear on it? I would expect scrape marks if it were a ram rod, and perhaps dents or bends if it were a mace. Perhaps it is a baton (swagger stick)?

HUSAR · 29th August 2008, 05:10 PM

Dear all
this is pretty heavy more than 1kg is it solid iron, welded.
i will make some more pictures during weekend... there are markings which look like talismanic symbols all over "head" and arabic inscriptions on the shaft
best
Husar

28th August 2008, 07:50 PM	#1
HUSAR Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 80	what is this? hello i have been not on line for a while... please see pictures below and maybe you have an idea what kind of object is this iron shaft, i will take some better pictures during weekend, this "mace" is around 40cm long,, heavy 1-2 kg octagonal, welded and brass inlaid in arabic ? sentences thank you in advance for help....Husar Attached Images

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kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,150	bar mace? how long is it?

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Yannis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 479	If it is fit enough to enter in a pistol barrel, it is a ramrod

29th August 2008, 09:08 AM	#6
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,150	quite possible, is the swollen end dished? octagonal x-section is a bit unusual. looks like it'd be for a serious calibre. ramrods were frequently separated from their weapons in the heat of battle. many a trooper has fired his ramrod down range in the heat of an encounter, which is very embarrassing when he has to explain what happened to it (presuming he survived). one of my favourite episodes of 'Sharp' is when the evil french spy Duclos sends two french cavalrymen, sabres drawn, charging down on Sgt. Harper, telling them he can only have time to shoot one of them, the survivor would get a handsome reward, (muzzle loading rifles of the period took a bit more time reloading than a musket as well) anyhow harper shoots one, pours in some powder & priming, & shoots the ramrod into the 2nd ...

29th August 2008, 02:56 PM	#8
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	What does the other end look like? Any signs of wear on it? I would expect scrape marks if it were a ram rod, and perhaps dents or bends if it were a mace. Perhaps it is a baton (swagger stick)?

29th August 2008, 05:10 PM	#9
HUSAR Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 80	Dear all this is pretty heavy more than 1kg is it solid iron, welded. i will make some more pictures during weekend... there are markings which look like talismanic symbols all over "head" and arabic inscriptions on the shaft best Husar