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Old 20th April 2011, 05:21 PM   #1
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Default Little wavy dagger, please help

Today had arrived my last adquisition, seems Filipino, but I´m not sure.
The new adquisition is this little dagger, with wood hadle.
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Old 20th April 2011, 06:22 PM   #2
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Carlos -

I guess it could be Filipino, but the work looks more European to me. Nice looking knives where ever it is from.

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Old 20th April 2011, 09:02 PM   #3
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I guess what throws me is that hilt looks more like a post WWII leg or bed finial. Brass ferrule looks new also. Cross guard - silver?

Still could be PI though. If it really is, could be Ilokano.
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Old 21st April 2011, 02:29 AM   #4
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Nos. 1 & 12 of Krieger's Plate 13 may be related:

"Plate 13 -- Hand weapons for cutting, piercing, and stabbing: Knives and daggers. No. 1. Dagger; triangular sectioned, curved, and pointed blade; single cutting edge; carved wood handle. Quinapundar, Samar Island. 2. Dagger "bala-rao"; hastate shape double-edged blade; handle provided with a peculiar finger-fitting grip consisting of extended tang and two horns; silver ferrule at center. Chief defense weapon of the Mandayan, southeastern Mindanao. 3. Woman's knife. Blade curved, designed for striking a slanting blow. Bagobo, southeastern Mindanao. 4. Plain dirk-dagger having curved blade, ferruled wooden handle, and circular guard. Moro, Mindanao. 5. Serpentine Malay dagger; grotesque dugong ivory carving on hilt. Collected by the United States exploring expedition, 1838-1842, under Admiral Wilkes. 6. Malay dagger; curved wooden pistol shape hilt; characteristic serpentine figure carving; straight-edged blade. Wilkes exploring expedition. 7. Serpentine kris-dagger; plain horn handle; engraved circular silver guard and ferrule. Moro, Mindanao. 8. Malay dagger; laminated blade; figured and carved handle of wood. Dyak, Pasir River, southeast Borneo. 9. Punal de kris; blade chased on surface section near handle; wood handle set in socketed brass ferrule. Moro, Mindanao. 10. Dagger; curved, double-edged blade; curved plain wood handle. Moro, Mindanao. 11. Dagger having saberlike blade; metal guard provided with volute tips; carved wood handle; blade chased and inlaid with soft metal at back. Moro, Jolo. 12. Dagger; serpentine blade; metal cross guard; spiral fluted grip of Camagon wood. 13. "Insurrecto" sword-dagger chased blade, pointed and double edged; cross guard; horn handle inlaid with shell mosaic; symbolically figured pommel."
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Old 21st April 2011, 02:43 AM   #5
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Hello Migueldiaz, A very nice looking dagger you have there. Could you show a picture of the end of the hilt and is the wood of the hilt painted or stained?

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Old 21st April 2011, 02:54 AM   #6
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Hello Migueldiaz, A very nice looking dagger you have there. Could you show a picture of the end of the hilt and is the wood of the hilt painted or stained?
Hi Robert! It's actually Seņor Carlos who owns the dagger But I'm interested also in seeing more pics of the dagger.
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Sorry about that. Carlos, Could you post a picture of the end of the hilt please?

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Old 21st April 2011, 01:17 PM   #8
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Sorry about that. Carlos, Could you post a picture of the end of the hilp please?

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Old 21st April 2011, 02:23 PM   #9
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Hm, isnt Dagger no.11 a flyssa dagger? it seems to even have the kabyle decoration aswell.
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Old 21st April 2011, 08:35 PM   #10
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#11 to me looks like some North African hybrid of a flyssa and a Nimcha, or something similar. The specific hilt is familiar, but I can't quite put my finger on it.
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