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21st February 2007, 04:25 PM | #1 |
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The gentleman in question was Lord Egerton of Tatton. Heard that story many years ago and it may well be true.
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21st February 2007, 05:00 PM | #2 |
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I guess another possible variable is whether Lord Eggerton helper was Afghani or Indian? {I would imagine most of his staff would be Indian?}
Choora is also used in India by Hindus as a derogatory term meaning, "low class" often used offensivly against people of lower castes/ class, or of course even "untouchables" So perhaps Eggerton asked his Indian assitant "whats this?" & was told it was ""low class" the equivalent of "junk" perhaps? Spiral |
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21st February 2007, 10:03 PM | #4 |
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It is also called Shotor Kosh in Iran: "Camel Killer" or close to that.
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22nd February 2007, 12:59 AM | #5 |
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Interesting thread...it does make you wonder how many other weapons may have gained a 'universal' name because of mistakes in translation/ language difficulties, or as a result of a name given to a weapon that perhaps was very localised to a small area (and that person was asked by the 'researcher' what 'it' was) but had a different more common name over the entire region.
I think, if the 'story' of how the choora was so named, is true. It seems likely that this would be because of language difficulties, (or an abusive interpretor ) If this knife was used for catration surely there would be documented evidence.....AFAIK knights had a dagger called a bollock knife, it was used to pierce the relatively unprotected groin area......could this be perhaps a possibility in the manner it was used |
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The Bollock Knife is named for the shape of its hilt I believe ....
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22nd February 2007, 01:27 AM | #7 |
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Rick, I'm not so certain you are right. There is a theory that 'form' followed function. That the dagger used by the knight to attack a 'felled' opponent in the groin area became known as a bollock knife ...and that later the spherical guard design came later. ( I suppose to advertise it's use )
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