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9th December 2008, 08:40 AM
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9th December 2008, 11:18 PM
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Honour to those who deserve it
 Unfortunately I'm painfully aware that, especially with the introduction of the threaded tang, the weapons are possibly not "original" to one time, but may be assemblys of various "times". By the way, I do the same with my Gardere-handle (1950's) on a 2005 FIE tournament legal epee blade....  Thanks for the advice anyway. By the way, it may be interesting to know that the weapon is not assembled correctly: The guard is placed for a left-handed fencer, while the grip is clearly for a right-handed. To date the weapon correctly (if that is possible) it would be useful to find out more about "Trule, Waffen- und Fechtartikel". Problem is, that if you want to look into the official registration forms you have to pay for it, and the web is silent (MacDougalling doesn't help  ). But the firm seems to have vanished very fast (or is very old) because even the oldest fencers here do not remember a company with that name.Perhaps I should spend the money  Anyway, we are all waiting for the pictures of your weapons @ broadaxe All the best William |
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12th December 2008, 11:15 PM
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Ok, folks, as promissed, here are pics of the marks on the two epees.
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14th December 2008, 09:19 PM
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Hi there, nice to see you back
Thanks for the detailed pictures, the first one is a mystery and gives no clues (at least for me) to solve it. The second marking can be found from time to time e.g. over here: http://cgi.ebay.es/ANTIGUO-FLORETE-...p3286.m20.l1116 Do you know which company/forge hides behind B.P.R? Greets William |
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14th December 2008, 09:35 PM
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Unfortunately, I don't. All the seller had to say was that company no longer exists. |
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14th December 2008, 11:39 PM
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There is still a firm working under the name "BPR" and they are working with metal (producing bending machines), but it seems that they are not identical with this firm...
Regarding the question when Souzy went bankrupt (at least it was still a question for me ) I found a remark in a book on fencing weapons by Heribert Seitz in which he stated that Souzy was producing epee points at least until 1961. I don't know how to verify this information, but... perhaps someone else does. By the way, this Mr. Seitz has published some works on ancient european fencing weapons and is quite famous for his two-volume work which seems to be some kind of standart reference book, at least for antique military weapons. The books themselves seem to be sought after, judging the prices  Do you know something about this "PR" marking we had a few posts back on the ebay foil (which went for a horrendous price)? Is it Prieur? They never answered to my request but seem to be in business for some time, they state on their web page: "Prieur : more than two centuries of skill and experience in fencing equipment. "... So far William |
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16th December 2008, 10:21 AM
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Sorry, don't know about that mark. I visited Prieur center in Paris about two years ago, aside sports equipment they supply the French military regulation swords and historical fencing weapons & parts. The electric blade I posted here is fitted with Prieur hilt parts (cup hilt style). |
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16th December 2008, 09:12 PM
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So we've met another dead end on this one...
 perhaps we'll find another one  Does anyone know the book: Le "Qui est qui" de l'arme en France de 1350 a 1970 by Buigne? Seems to cover "our" time and may reveal some answers @broadaxe: Check your pm's please |
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