Medieval Knife , dagger or others weapon?

Lerry · 22nd November 2010, 11:26 PM

Hello at all ,
I would ask fellow collectors of the forum if they know this kind of dagger? or agricultural? Medieval?

Thanks to all Lerry

Atlantia · 26th November 2010, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lerry

Hello at all ,
I would ask fellow collectors of the forum if they know this kind of dagger? or agricultural? Medieval?

Thanks to all Lerry

Hi Lerry,
It doesn't look medieval to me, but its certainly interesting.
Any makers marks? Also a picture next to a ruler for scale might be useful.

Best
Gene

Matchlock · 26th November 2010, 07:26 PM

Hi Lerry,

I agree with Gene, it's almost certainly neither European nor is it medieval, and by no means is it a dagger.

At first sight, it reminds one of the iron of a Friualian spear, North Italy, 2nd half 15th c.- see attachments of a piece from my collection - but the tip of the blade is way too short and the hooks would only make use if they were pointed. As the remaining hook ends are blunt, I would tentatively suggest either agricultural use - as you surmised - or representative function.

Best,
Michael

Lerry · 29th November 2010, 11:13 AM

Thank you very much for the reply ... I think it is not an incomplete item like a spear broke or other. But I ve never find it !

I add photos of my item exactly .

thank you very much Lerry

fernando · 29th November 2010, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Matchlock

... and by no means is it a dagger...

However and amazingly its front bent upper arm looks like a "parrier" and the back bent lower one looks like the stump pf a "knuckle guard".
... Just wandering, of course

Matchlock · 29th November 2010, 04:08 PM

I feel the item is way too heavy and clumsy for a dagger anyway ...

m

ausjulius · 1st December 2010, 05:16 AM

it looks to me like it has a specific use,, like sticking and animal or some such,
but it is odd....
maybe some sort of central or south american slaughtering tool?

22nd November 2010, 11:26 PM	#1
Lerry Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 6	Medieval Knife , dagger or others weapon? Hello at all , I would ask fellow collectors of the forum if they know this kind of dagger? or agricultural? Medieval? Thanks to all Lerry Attached Images

26th November 2010, 07:26 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Lerry, I agree with Gene, it's almost certainly neither European nor is it medieval, and by no means is it a dagger. At first sight, it reminds one of the iron of a Friualian spear, North Italy, 2nd half 15th c.- see attachments of a piece from my collection - but the tip of the blade is way too short and the hooks would only make use if they were pointed. As the remaining hook ends are blunt, I would tentatively suggest either agricultural use - as you surmised - or representative function. Best, Michael Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 26th November 2010 at 11:07 PM.

29th November 2010, 11:13 AM	#4
Lerry Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 6	Thank you very much for the reply ... I think it is not an incomplete item like a spear broke or other. But I ve never find it ! I add photos of my item exactly . thank you very much Lerry Attached Images

29th November 2010, 04:08 PM	#6
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	I feel the item is way too heavy and clumsy for a dagger anyway ... m

1st December 2010, 05:16 AM	#7
ausjulius Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: musorian territory Posts: 415	it looks to me like it has a specific use,, like sticking and animal or some such, but it is odd.... maybe some sort of central or south american slaughtering tool?