French Naval Sword

templarnight · 22nd November 2012, 10:43 PM

I am trying to put a bit of research into 19th century French Naval Swords.

I am having difficulty finding much out on the web about the types with the Ball Pommel and Shell Guard.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Norman McCormick · 22nd November 2012, 11:12 PM

Hi Templarnight,
Am not able to assist you specifically but try this thread it might be of help. www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=16286
Regards,
Norman.

templarnight · 25th November 2012, 10:35 AM

Heres the pics of it. It has been rehilted so Im wondering what kind of blade this had?

M ELEY · 25th November 2012, 12:56 PM

Late 19th century dress sword, probably French as you pointed out, with the thin dress-type spadroon blade. It is very similar to the m1860 U.S. Staff & Field Officer's sword pattern, but one can also see a similarity in earlier patterns. Although not into dress swords myself, this is a particularly nice example, possibly gold gilded over brass(?), or am I looking too deeply-

templarnight · 25th November 2012, 01:54 PM

It is heavily Gilded. Does it have a pattern date? I mut say I thought it was earlier than late 19th, but I wasnt sure.

I cant find a picture of one on the net anywhere...

fernando · 25th November 2012, 02:54 PM

Yes, French is the instinctive aproach but ... a few things don't square. Pommel shape, grip cover and anchor ornament, are not the usually seen.
Certainly from the XIX century, possibly from the first quarter to middle. These models usualy last for a while with slight alterations.

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fernando · 25th November 2012, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando

... Pommel shape, grip cover and anchor ornament, are not the usually seen...

But don't take this as absolute .
Have you tried browsing under the French terms "Épée d'officier de Marine" ?. Quite a few pages out there.

templarnight · 25th November 2012, 03:23 PM

It looks like its a model 1819, and would have had a Triangular section Blade similar to a smallsword type.

Success!!Thanks to everyone for helping!!

22nd November 2012, 10:43 PM	#1
templarnight Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 87	French Naval Sword I am trying to put a bit of research into 19th century French Naval Swords. I am having difficulty finding much out on the web about the types with the Ball Pommel and Shell Guard. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

25th November 2012, 10:35 AM	#3
templarnight Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 87	Heres the pics of it. It has been rehilted so Im wondering what kind of blade this had? Attached Images

25th November 2012, 02:54 PM	#6
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,637	Not a qualified opinion Yes, French is the instinctive aproach but ... a few things don't square. Pommel shape, grip cover and anchor ornament, are not the usually seen. Certainly from the XIX century, possibly from the first quarter to middle. These models usualy last for a while with slight alterations. . Attached Images

22nd November 2012, 11:12 PM	#2
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,575	Hi Templarnight, Am not able to assist you specifically but try this thread it might be of help. www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=16286 Regards, Norman.

25th November 2012, 12:56 PM	#4
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,066	Late 19th century dress sword, probably French as you pointed out, with the thin dress-type spadroon blade. It is very similar to the m1860 U.S. Staff & Field Officer's sword pattern, but one can also see a similarity in earlier patterns. Although not into dress swords myself, this is a particularly nice example, possibly gold gilded over brass(?), or am I looking too deeply-

25th November 2012, 01:54 PM	#5
templarnight Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 87	It is heavily Gilded. Does it have a pattern date? I mut say I thought it was earlier than late 19th, but I wasnt sure. I cant find a picture of one on the net anywhere...

25th November 2012, 03:23 PM	#8
templarnight Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 87	It looks like its a model 1819, and would have had a Triangular section Blade similar to a smallsword type. Success!!Thanks to everyone for helping!!