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Old 13th October 2009, 02:45 PM   #1
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Default What I buy there: Sangkuh, Kaso? - it is a Shi-Havu!

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I need your help by this "sword" I buy by e-bay, I only have this picture from the seller. The blade have a triangular cross-section and it is 72,4 cm or 28,5 inch long over all. Thank you very much in advance,

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Old 13th October 2009, 03:30 PM   #2
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Hi Sajen,


I have no idea, but I know one thing for sure: You bought it from the same seller as Carlos bought his dajak sword: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10902

The same floor and the same weird camera which took the picture dated 02-06 in the year 2010 ???
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Old 13th October 2009, 04:25 PM   #3
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The same floor and the same weird camera which took the picture dated 02-06 in the year 2010 ???

Wow, antique weapons....from the future!
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Hi Sajen,


I have no idea, but I know one thing for sure: You bought it from the same seller as Carlos bought his dajak sword: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10902

The same floor and the same weird camera which took the picture dated 02-06 in the year 2010 ???


Correct!
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Old 13th October 2009, 05:29 PM   #5
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Wow, antique weapons....from the future!



I am curious what the future stuff is and how the quality when it arrived!
I think it is from Indonesia or Malaysia so far I can see it by the future pics.
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Old 13th October 2009, 05:48 PM   #6
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Hello all,

I need your help by this "sword" I buy by e-bay, I only have this picture from the seller. The blade have a triangular cross-section and it is 72,4 cm or 28,5 inch long over all. Thank you very much in advance,

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That is a Shi-Havu sword from Rwanda late 19th century to early 20th century.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showt...highlight=tutsi
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Old 13th October 2009, 07:10 PM   #7
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Thank you very much Lew, when I look to the other thread it's the same style. Can you tell me a little bit more about, this is completly not my field. Is it a rare sword?

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Thank you very much Lew, when I look to the other thread it's the same style. Can you tell me a little bit more about, this is completly not my field. Is it a rare sword?

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These are status swords made for higher ranking members of the tribe. These swords are fairly rare and yours is an older example as is the one I have and Flavio has Tim's piece in the thread is probably 1930s vintage.
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These are status swords made for higher ranking members of the tribe. These swords are fairly rare and yours is an older example as is the one I have and Flavio has Tim's piece in the thread is probably 1930s vintage.



Thank you again, by your words I get happy!
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I am not convinced that this piece is African. The scabbard really bears no resemblance to the on Lew has linked to and i do recall a while back that we had a discussion about these 3-sided blades that were actually Indonesian in origin. I must say that the dress here looks like it could be from somewhere in SEA.
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Here is the thread i was thinking of:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showt...=triangle+blade
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Here is the thread i was thinking of:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showt...=triangle+blade



Hello David,
thank you for the link, I have seen it, but I think that Lew is correct. I have done some research by Oriental Arms, they all look very similar to mine, special the handle. My first thought also have been Indonesia (the reason why I bought it) and I also think like this because the sheat. We will see when I have it in my hands and I can take some better pictures, it is already paid and shipped.

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I am not convinced that this piece is African. The scabbard really bears no resemblance to the on Lew has linked to and i do recall a while back that we had a discussion about these 3-sided blades that were actually Indonesian in origin. I must say that the dress here looks like it could be from somewhere in SEA.


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The scabbards are identical in constuction down to the braided binding rings and belt loop protrusion with the hole in it. Btw these blades are not three sided there is a matching middle rib on both sides of my blade and would bet Sajen's is the same as mine.

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The scabbards are identical in constuction down to the braided binding rings and belt loop protrusion with the hole in it.

Sorry Lew, i was lazy and didn't scroll down on the link. I only looked at the first one.
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