Unknown Weapon

clockwork · 24th June 2013, 04:38 AM

Well its a shame we cold not figure out what this is, But thank you for all the input. Maybe in the future I will figure it out.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 24th June 2013, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by clockwork

Well its a shame we cold not figure out what this is, But thank you for all the input. Maybe in the future I will figure it out.

Salaams clockwork~ I think you will find that a number of posts indicate exactly what you have... a set of scales.. albeit incomplete i.e. minus the weighing dishes.. I would say for measuring spices etc

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

David · 25th June 2013, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Salaams clockwork~ I think you will find that a number of posts indicate exactly what you have... a set of scales.. albeit incomplete i.e. minus the weighing dishes.. I would say for measuring spices etc
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Well, i'd hardly say there has been ANY definitive answer to what this first item might be. When i look back over this thread i find exactly one other person who seems to fully agree with you on the scale possibility. Not much of a consensus there. If it is a scale there are an awful lot of oddities about it.
1. Why would a scale have a balance bar that is drastically unbalanced in weight. Clockwork has stated that all the weight is on the side with the hole.
2. How would the missing weighing trays hang? There is only a hole on one end of the unbalanced balance bar.
3. Why would one end of a scale's balance bar be dangerously sharpened like a spear?
Frankly, while interesting, i think we are spending an awful amount of time discussing an implement that most probably is not a weapon...but i don't think it is a scale either....

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 25th June 2013, 05:25 PM

Salaams David,
I agree with your point 3 in particular... however, since we have a debate I was thinking about the floating "d ring" well described at #1 as a sliding metal clasp, which, it is assumed keeps the assembly in place when being transported... but which is, I suspect, the hanging point of one side of the scales so that there are, in fact, not two dishes... but one ... so that the scales follow a similar style to chinese opium scales. That would also explain why there is no hole in the redundant other end.. The other missing parts are the weighing dish and its likely 4 hanging cords and the hook and weight assembly built to hang on the "d ring" which is mobile across its bar. It would appear that the graticules determining weight are inscribed on the bar itself... which is also the case at #1 .

See Chinese Opium Scale picture below;

I agree this does not appear to be a weapon.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

VANDOO · 25th June 2013, 07:20 PM

A INTERESTING DESCUSSION

I HAVE NEVER USED SUCH A SCALE BUT KNOW THEY ARE IN USE IN SOME PARTS OF THE WORLD EVEN TODAY. EVERYTHING ABOUT SUCH A SCALE WOULD HAVE A PURPOSE AS THEY WERE OFTEN CARRIED FROM PLACE TO PLACE AND HAD TO BE SET UP AND TAKEN DOWN REGULARLY. SIZE AND WEIGHT WOULD BE IMPORTANT AS YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO CARRY ANYMORE THAN NECESSARY. PERHAPS THE BLADE SERVED TO MAKE A HOLE IN THE DIRT OR IN A BOARD OR SOMETHING FOR MOUNTING THE SCALE OR PERFORMED SOME OTHER TOOL FUNCTION. WHATEVER IT IS I DON'T THINK ITS A WEAPON OR FORM OF TRAP BUT A INTERESTING TOOL.

clockwork · 27th June 2013, 01:57 AM

I sent an inquery to chinese museum hopefully have an answer soon.

25th June 2013, 05:25 PM	#4
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	Salaams David, I agree with your point 3 in particular... however, since we have a debate I was thinking about the floating "d ring" well described at #1 as a sliding metal clasp, which, it is assumed keeps the assembly in place when being transported... but which is, I suspect, the hanging point of one side of the scales so that there are, in fact, not two dishes... but one ... so that the scales follow a similar style to chinese opium scales. That would also explain why there is no hole in the redundant other end.. The other missing parts are the weighing dish and its likely 4 hanging cords and the hook and weight assembly built to hang on the "d ring" which is mobile across its bar. It would appear that the graticules determining weight are inscribed on the bar itself... which is also the case at #1 . See Chinese Opium Scale picture below; I agree this does not appear to be a weapon. Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi. Attached Images Last edited by Ibrahiim al Balooshi; 25th June 2013 at 07:01 PM.

24th June 2013, 04:38 AM	#1
clockwork Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 93	Well its a shame we cold not figure out what this is, But thank you for all the input. Maybe in the future I will figure it out.

25th June 2013, 07:20 PM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A INTERESTING DESCUSSION I HAVE NEVER USED SUCH A SCALE BUT KNOW THEY ARE IN USE IN SOME PARTS OF THE WORLD EVEN TODAY. EVERYTHING ABOUT SUCH A SCALE WOULD HAVE A PURPOSE AS THEY WERE OFTEN CARRIED FROM PLACE TO PLACE AND HAD TO BE SET UP AND TAKEN DOWN REGULARLY. SIZE AND WEIGHT WOULD BE IMPORTANT AS YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO CARRY ANYMORE THAN NECESSARY. PERHAPS THE BLADE SERVED TO MAKE A HOLE IN THE DIRT OR IN A BOARD OR SOMETHING FOR MOUNTING THE SCALE OR PERFORMED SOME OTHER TOOL FUNCTION. WHATEVER IT IS I DON'T THINK ITS A WEAPON OR FORM OF TRAP BUT A INTERESTING TOOL.

27th June 2013, 01:57 AM	#6
clockwork Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 93	I sent an inquery to chinese museum hopefully have an answer soon.