Dagger, Short Sword

Robert · 2nd September 2005, 11:22 PM

Greetings,
This is another Philippine weapon looking for everyones opinions. The blade is still extremely sharp and there is a small horn guard that is hard to see. All comments are welcome.

blade length is 14-3/8"
blade width is 1-3/16" at widest point
blade thickness is 1/4"
grip lenth is 5-3/4"

Robert

Montino Bourbon · 3rd September 2005, 06:17 AM

I'd like to see the back of the blade!

Robert · 3rd September 2005, 04:30 PM

Montino,
As you requested. I also added pictures were the guard can be seen.

Robert

Robert · 9th September 2005, 02:29 PM

121 views and not one comment?

Robert · 29th November 2007, 10:52 PM

Hello Everyone,
I'm still trying to identify this Philippine knife and hoping that by bumping it back up that someone might have some new thoughts on it. Thanks for any help offered.

Robert

VANDOO · 30th November 2007, 05:14 AM

VISAYAN TALBION STYLE HANDLE WITH A ATYPICAL BLADE FORM. THE BLADE IS MORE LIKE THOSE FOUND ON THE BOWIE OR SPANISH STYLES. YOU CAN SEE SOME EXAMPLES OF THE MORE USUAL TALBION BLADES WITH A SEARCH. IN THE PHILIPPINES THE POORER GUYS HAD TO DO THE BEST THEY COULD FOR A WORK/FIGHTING KNIFE AND OFTEN CARVED THEIR OWN HANDLE AND SCABBARDS. THATS MY BEST GUESS I FIND THESE INTERESTING BECAUSE OF THE WIDE VARIATION IN DECORATIONS THERE IS USUALLY LESS VARIATION IN THE BLADES.

MY FIRST VIEW SO NOW I POST

I KNOW A BIT BUT NOT ENOUGH TO BOAST

TIS THE SEASON OF THE TURKEY

BUT I DO NOT CHOOSE TO LURKEY

THIS POEM IS FOR THE LURKEY TURKEYS ,SORRY MUST HAVE HAD TOO MUCH HOLIDAY CHEER

kronckew · 30th November 2007, 05:58 PM

reminds me a bit of this currently made garab knife:

Robert · 30th November 2007, 09:02 PM

Vandoo and Kronckew,
Thank you both for your replies. The blade on this knife is beveled on both sides. When I first posted this I just guessed at the thickness of the blade. I was close but it is actually 9/32 inch thick at the grip. Not that this is a great difference I just thought I would mention it. Below is the only other knife with the same blade style as this that I have. The blade on it is just shy of a 1/4 inch at the grip. It is nowhere the quality of the first one. Am I wrong or is one of these left handed? These were both supposedly brought back after WWII. I'm just trying to find out if there is an actual name for this style. Thank you both again.

Robert

2nd September 2005, 11:22 PM	#1
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Dagger, Short Sword Greetings, This is another Philippine weapon looking for everyones opinions. The blade is still extremely sharp and there is a small horn guard that is hard to see. All comments are welcome. blade length is 14-3/8" blade width is 1-3/16" at widest point blade thickness is 1/4" grip lenth is 5-3/4" Robert Attached Images

3rd September 2005, 04:30 PM	#3
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Montino, As you requested. I also added pictures were the guard can be seen. Robert Attached Images

30th November 2007, 09:02 PM	#8
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Vandoo and Kronckew, Thank you both for your replies. The blade on this knife is beveled on both sides. When I first posted this I just guessed at the thickness of the blade. I was close but it is actually 9/32 inch thick at the grip. Not that this is a great difference I just thought I would mention it. Below is the only other knife with the same blade style as this that I have. The blade on it is just shy of a 1/4 inch at the grip. It is nowhere the quality of the first one. Am I wrong or is one of these left handed? These were both supposedly brought back after WWII. I'm just trying to find out if there is an actual name for this style. Thank you both again. Robert Attached Images

3rd September 2005, 06:17 AM	#2
Montino Bourbon Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, California Posts: 295	I'd like to see the back of the blade!

9th September 2005, 02:29 PM	#4
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	121 views and not one comment?

29th November 2007, 10:52 PM	#5
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hello Everyone, I'm still trying to identify this Philippine knife and hoping that by bumping it back up that someone might have some new thoughts on it. Thanks for any help offered. Robert

30th November 2007, 05:14 AM	#6
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	VISAYAN TALBION STYLE HANDLE WITH A ATYPICAL BLADE FORM. THE BLADE IS MORE LIKE THOSE FOUND ON THE BOWIE OR SPANISH STYLES. YOU CAN SEE SOME EXAMPLES OF THE MORE USUAL TALBION BLADES WITH A SEARCH. IN THE PHILIPPINES THE POORER GUYS HAD TO DO THE BEST THEY COULD FOR A WORK/FIGHTING KNIFE AND OFTEN CARVED THEIR OWN HANDLE AND SCABBARDS. THATS MY BEST GUESS I FIND THESE INTERESTING BECAUSE OF THE WIDE VARIATION IN DECORATIONS THERE IS USUALLY LESS VARIATION IN THE BLADES. MY FIRST VIEW SO NOW I POST I KNOW A BIT BUT NOT ENOUGH TO BOAST TIS THE SEASON OF THE TURKEY BUT I DO NOT CHOOSE TO LURKEY THIS POEM IS FOR THE LURKEY TURKEYS ,SORRY MUST HAVE HAD TOO MUCH HOLIDAY CHEER

30th November 2007, 05:58 PM	#7
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,150	reminds me a bit of this currently made garab knife: