Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > Ethnographic Weapons
FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 14th April 2024, 05:47 PM   #1
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,497
Default Belatu/Balato from North Nias

I've won a German auction with a lot of two swords, a belatu from North Nias and a pedang from Sumatra. When the auction was finished I noticed in another, unsold lot the charm ball for the scabbard of the Nias balato. So I phoned and wrote to the auction house about it and they added the charm ball to the lot for free.
Here are the poor auction pictures.
Attached Images
   

Last edited by Sajen; 14th April 2024 at 10:40 PM.
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th April 2024, 05:52 PM   #2
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,497
Default

Here my own pictures from the belatu.
Attached Images
            
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th April 2024, 05:59 PM   #3
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,497
Default

More pics!

Like you can see, shows the scabbard a tribal repair and the handle shows an encrusted patination, both I want to preserve.
Attached Images
        
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th April 2024, 06:13 PM   #4
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,497
Default The charm ball

The charm ball has alternating real teeth and wooden teeth. The real ones are socketed with wooden pegs. The charm ball fits the socket from the scabbard well.
The belatu was collected between 1970-1972 in Pematang-Siantar from a German who worked to this time on Sumatra.
Attached Images
           

Last edited by Sajen; 15th April 2024 at 02:02 PM.
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th April 2024, 09:14 PM   #5
asomotif
Member
 
asomotif's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 2,221
Default

Hi Detlef,

What a great find, and with the amulet ball as a bonus.
super patina. I would not clean it too much. just preserve the blade.
asomotif is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th April 2024, 09:46 PM   #6
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,497
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by asomotif View Post
Hi Detlef,

What a great find, and with the amulet ball as a bonus.
super patina. I would not clean it too much. just preserve the blade.
Hi Willem,

Thank you! I don't will remove any patina. But the blade will get cleaned but not polished, I only will remove rust and grease.

Regards,
Detlef
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th April 2024, 02:59 PM   #7
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,497
Default

One side of the blade is cleaned, done with a Japanese rust rubber, the metal parts got rubbed with a towel only and the wooden parts got rubbed with a towel and linseed oil, no patina got removed.
Attached Images
  
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th April 2024, 03:13 PM   #8
naturalist
Member
 
naturalist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 50
Default

Just curious with the pedang, what is the distinct characters with pedang lombok? The gajah mungkur hilt looks like pedang lombok.
naturalist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th April 2024, 03:16 PM   #9
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,497
Default My small North Nias collection

My honest North Nias collection!
Attached Images
  
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th April 2024, 03:46 PM   #10
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,497
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by naturalist View Post
Just curious with the pedang, what is the distinct characters with pedang lombok? The gajah mungkur hilt looks like pedang lombok.
For me it's mainly the scabbard construction with the horn throat, the blade shape and to a lesser degree the style of the carving and the embossing on the siver mounts. Compare with another Sumatran pedang.

Last picture shows from up to down:

pedang Lombok
pedang Sumatra
pedang Sumbawa
Attached Images
    
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th April 2024, 04:15 PM   #11
naturalist
Member
 
naturalist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 50
Default

Thanks
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sajen View Post
For me it's mainly the scabbard construction with the horn throat, the blade shape and to a lesser degree the style of the carving and the embossing on the siver mounts. Compare with another Sumatran pedang.
naturalist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th April 2024, 04:20 PM   #12
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,497
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by naturalist View Post
Thanks
You're welcome!
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:31 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.