bichaq country

ericlaude · 13th August 2010, 03:37 PM

Hello,
Someone can help me ? What are the origine of its bichaq? are its greek?
Length: 31 cm
Thanks for advance

TVV · 13th August 2010, 04:38 PM

The fullering, the hilr shape and the hilt decoration all look Turkish to me. Pinpointing it to a specific area is hard, but my best guess would be Bursa.

Regards,
Teodor

Lew · 13th August 2010, 05:13 PM

They both seem to be from Trabzon compare them to the two pictured below which are older examples.

Jim McDougall · 15th August 2010, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lew

They both seem to be from Trabzon compare them to the two pictured below which are older examples.

Lew, looks pretty spot on for ID on these. When I first saw these, I began thinking of the Cretan daggers, but as I do not have that book with me I really couldnt place. What are the distinctions on the Cretan daggers? It seems like they also have the splayed pommel, but again cannot recall for sure.

All the best,
Jim

TVV · 15th August 2010, 08:38 PM

I personally do not think they are from Trabzon - the spliced pommel was popular throughout Turkey and even in the Balkans. I am attaching two mid 20th century knives from North-Western Bulgaria with a spliced pommel and a kama with similar hilt decoration and blade markings, also found in Bulgaria. This is why pinpointing a specific place of origin in Turkey is hard.
Regards,
Teodor

digenis · 16th August 2010, 03:54 PM

They look Bosnian to me. My only doubt is the sheaths that look like some of the daggers I have from central Asia.

13th August 2010, 03:37 PM	#1
ericlaude Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 187	bichaq country Hello, Someone can help me ? What are the origine of its bichaq? are its greek? Length: 31 cm Thanks for advance Attached Images

13th August 2010, 05:13 PM	#3
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	They both seem to be from Trabzon compare them to the two pictured below which are older examples. Attached Images Last edited by Lew; 14th August 2010 at 05:05 PM.

15th August 2010, 08:38 PM	#5
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,599	I personally do not think they are from Trabzon - the spliced pommel was popular throughout Turkey and even in the Balkans. I am attaching two mid 20th century knives from North-Western Bulgaria with a spliced pommel and a kama with similar hilt decoration and blade markings, also found in Bulgaria. This is why pinpointing a specific place of origin in Turkey is hard. Regards, Teodor Attached Images

13th August 2010, 04:38 PM	#2
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,599	The fullering, the hilr shape and the hilt decoration all look Turkish to me. Pinpointing it to a specific area is hard, but my best guess would be Bursa. Regards, Teodor

16th August 2010, 03:54 PM	#6
digenis Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 48	They look Bosnian to me. My only doubt is the sheaths that look like some of the daggers I have from central Asia.