Older Ivory Junggayan Kalis

Bill M · 3rd July 2008, 01:32 AM

Have provenance going back to acquisition by an American Brigadier General in 1898. He said it was "quite old" when he collected it. Note the diminutive ivory pommel about 5" long.

21 3/8" blade
9 shallow (siko) waves

Battara · 3rd July 2008, 03:23 AM

Bill I was hoping you would share this with the forum. I like this one a lot with the ivory and the silver inlay. Provenance is so helpful thank you.

The silver near the top is embossed - something you don't see all that much on Moro pieces, never mind on Sulu pieces. Looks like the scabbard had a band near the top at some time.

A lovely piece - again thanks.

VVV · 9th July 2008, 08:14 AM

Fantastic Kris (as usual when you find something)!

Where was it collected?
Now and then I hear/read that brass or silver dots, like on this kris, indicates Borneo (probably based on the similar motif on the mandau blades).
I doubt this myself and think it's a multi-cultural motif.
So far I haven't seen it on any kris that has proven Borneo origin but...

Michael

Ferguson · 9th July 2008, 10:51 AM

Beautiful.

Steve

Dajak · 9th July 2008, 07:32 PM

Could it be that the scabbard is put later on .

Ben

Battara · 9th July 2008, 09:34 PM

The scabbard may be later, but the dot inlay are not just Borneo, but are on other PI/Moro pieces. I have seen these on barong, kris, and kampilan. It may be a regional thing, especially since there was lots of contact between Borneo and the Philippines for millenia.

Bill M · 9th July 2008, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dajak

Could it be that the scabbard is put later on .

Ben

Quite possible that it is not original for the kris, but my documentation shows this scabbard has been with this kris for over 100 years.

3rd July 2008, 01:32 AM	#1
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Older Ivory Junggayan Kalis Have provenance going back to acquisition by an American Brigadier General in 1898. He said it was "quite old" when he collected it. Note the diminutive ivory pommel about 5" long. 21 3/8" blade 9 shallow (siko) waves Attached Images

3rd July 2008, 03:23 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	Bill I was hoping you would share this with the forum. I like this one a lot with the ivory and the silver inlay. Provenance is so helpful thank you. The silver near the top is embossed - something you don't see all that much on Moro pieces, never mind on Sulu pieces. Looks like the scabbard had a band near the top at some time. A lovely piece - again thanks.

9th July 2008, 08:14 AM	#3
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Fantastic Kris (as usual when you find something)! Where was it collected? Now and then I hear/read that brass or silver dots, like on this kris, indicates Borneo (probably based on the similar motif on the mandau blades). I doubt this myself and think it's a multi-cultural motif. So far I haven't seen it on any kris that has proven Borneo origin but... Michael

9th July 2008, 10:51 AM	#4
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Beautiful. Steve

9th July 2008, 07:32 PM	#5
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Could it be that the scabbard is put later on . Ben

9th July 2008, 09:34 PM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	The scabbard may be later, but the dot inlay are not just Borneo, but are on other PI/Moro pieces. I have seen these on barong, kris, and kampilan. It may be a regional thing, especially since there was lots of contact between Borneo and the Philippines for millenia.