Ula?

Tim Simmons · 6th September 2009, 11:54 AM

Gambled 10 portions on this scaby picture. It is what I think it is? It looks quite long, shown on the top of a wheelie bin. I guess it could be up to 60cm long looking at my whealie bin. As you can see the picture is poor so I have taken a big deep breath, shut my eyes really tight and crossed my fingers untill it arrives.

Lew · 6th September 2009, 06:12 PM

Tim

Hard to say the head looks ok but the lack of patina worries me? See example below.

kahnjar1 · 7th September 2009, 05:16 AM

Small pumpkin on stick??

Seriously what is an Ula?
Stu

Tim Simmons · 7th September 2009, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kahnjar1

Small pumpkin on stick??

Seriously what is an Ula?
Stu

This link will put you right Stuart. Lovely examples but too expensive also he has rather a lot of then.

http://www.tribalmania.com/EXHIBITIONULAS.htm

kahnjar1 · 7th September 2009, 08:43 AM

Thanks for the link Tim. I have to say I am shocked at the prices, and if I happen to see one I will know what to do with it.!!!!
Stu

graeme gt · 7th September 2009, 01:56 PM

Paid a few portions for mine ,but hard to believe the prices .

Tim Simmons · 7th September 2009, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOUIEBLADES

Tim

Hard to say the head looks ok but the lack of patina worries me? See example below.

Me too. I am happy with the blond wood. I am hoping it is just dried out and neglected and will come right with so TLC.

colin henshaw · 9th September 2009, 05:52 PM

Hi Tim

I can recommend the books by Fergus Clunie published by the Fiji Museum eg :-

"Fijian Weapons & Warfare"
"Yalo i Viti"

I think they can be ordered direct from the museum, which has a website.

"Fijian Artefacts : the Tasmanian Museum and Art Gallery Collection" by R. Ewins, 1982 is also good.

Regards

Tim Simmons · 9th September 2009, 07:39 PM

Galvano, they are super clubs and it was very cheeky of me to suggest they were of late date

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Colin thanks for the book info.

I got this picture from the "Art of Tonga" Very beautiful but also quite short 31cm, my Ula is 41cm. They are clearly objects that belonged to the elete. Although marvelous to behold I sometime feel this type of object is not helpful in a general study. Tongan artist were in the employ of royalty on Fiji and that would have been the main island. What about the more isolated islands and Samoa.

Also a picture looking on the top of my Ula. I do not believe it is the result of random carving. There is a distinctive star shape, three large lobes at the top of the picture and four small lobes at the bottom. I might think the carving on the head is relativly minimal with the lobes largely form by constriction of the shrub root ball.

Gavin Nugent · 15th September 2009, 11:01 AM

A question I am sure a few of you have pondered is the incised markings found on Fijian clubs. Is it known if these lines represent anything at all such as status?
The rings of incised lines is what sparks my curiosity? Some are paired together above and below the long incised lines that run up and down the clubs, some of these rings are spaced apart with no long lines joining them.

Any ideas?

Gav

6th September 2009, 11:54 AM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,739	Ula? Gambled 10 portions on this scaby picture. It is what I think it is? It looks quite long, shown on the top of a wheelie bin. I guess it could be up to 60cm long looking at my whealie bin. As you can see the picture is poor so I have taken a big deep breath, shut my eyes really tight and crossed my fingers untill it arrives. Attached Images

6th September 2009, 06:12 PM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Tim Hard to say the head looks ok but the lack of patina worries me? See example below. Attached Images Last edited by LOUIEBLADES; 6th September 2009 at 06:44 PM.

7th September 2009, 01:56 PM	#6
graeme gt Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 97	Paid a few portions for mine ,but hard to believe the prices . Attached Images

9th September 2009, 07:39 PM	#9
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,739	Galvano, they are super clubs and it was very cheeky of me to suggest they were of late date . Colin thanks for the book info. I got this picture from the "Art of Tonga" Very beautiful but also quite short 31cm, my Ula is 41cm. They are clearly objects that belonged to the elete. Although marvelous to behold I sometime feel this type of object is not helpful in a general study. Tongan artist were in the employ of royalty on Fiji and that would have been the main island. What about the more isolated islands and Samoa. Also a picture looking on the top of my Ula. I do not believe it is the result of random carving. There is a distinctive star shape, three large lobes at the top of the picture and four small lobes at the bottom. I might think the carving on the head is relativly minimal with the lobes largely form by constriction of the shrub root ball. Attached Images

15th September 2009, 11:01 AM	#10
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	A question. A question I am sure a few of you have pondered is the incised markings found on Fijian clubs. Is it known if these lines represent anything at all such as status? The rings of incised lines is what sparks my curiosity? Some are paired together above and below the long incised lines that run up and down the clubs, some of these rings are spaced apart with no long lines joining them. Any ideas? Gav

7th September 2009, 05:16 AM	#3
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,729	Small pumpkin on stick?? Seriously what is an Ula? Stu

7th September 2009, 08:43 AM	#5
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,729	Thanks for the link Tim. I have to say I am shocked at the prices, and if I happen to see one I will know what to do with it.!!!! Stu

9th September 2009, 05:52 PM	#8
colin henshaw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,430	Hi Tim I can recommend the books by Fergus Clunie published by the Fiji Museum eg :- "Fijian Weapons & Warfare" "Yalo i Viti" I think they can be ordered direct from the museum, which has a website. "Fijian Artefacts : the Tasmanian Museum and Art Gallery Collection" by R. Ewins, 1982 is also good. Regards