Telling the Kard Origin by the Hilt Workmanship

ALEX · 14th March 2006, 10:07 AM

First 3 pictures are of the simple Kard. Good 8'' wootz blade, silver? handle. But I am curious: Perhaps there is more to it. How can one tell of it's origin, perhaps by the Silver work of the hilt or scabbard? Turkish, Indian...?

The last 2 pictures are of the different silver? cover. Please note the dresses and the small child with the sword? in his hand. What could be the origin of this?

Any thoughts/comments? You never know what one can learn on the Forum.

Valjhun · 14th March 2006, 05:21 PM

I would say greece, not typical thou. The blade is turkish damascus. I would guess that it was rehilted in greece. Can you post a photo of the kard in the scabbard? It looks that that scabbard is not original to it.

ham · 14th March 2006, 07:45 PM

The kard is Mughal, the symmetrical flowers represented in plan view are indicative. This type is often fitted with a scabbard which takes in most of the grip, Central Asian style; it is generally made entirely of silver and embossed and chased en suite with the grip. It may date to the mid 1800s, perhaps later.

The chape is from a N.W. Persian dagger, probably early 20th century. The figures are characteristic of such work.

Ham

Valjhun · 14th March 2006, 08:21 PM

Well, at least... I've tried....

Ham, would you mind me calling you master?

14th March 2006, 10:07 AM	#1
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 935	Telling the Kard Origin by the Hilt Workmanship First 3 pictures are of the simple Kard. Good 8'' wootz blade, silver? handle. But I am curious: Perhaps there is more to it. How can one tell of it's origin, perhaps by the Silver work of the hilt or scabbard? Turkish, Indian...? The last 2 pictures are of the different silver? cover. Please note the dresses and the small child with the sword? in his hand. What could be the origin of this? Any thoughts/comments? You never know what one can learn on the Forum. Attached Images

14th March 2006, 05:21 PM	#2
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	I would say greece, not typical thou. The blade is turkish damascus. I would guess that it was rehilted in greece. Can you post a photo of the kard in the scabbard? It looks that that scabbard is not original to it.

14th March 2006, 07:45 PM	#3
ham Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 190	The kard is Mughal, the symmetrical flowers represented in plan view are indicative. This type is often fitted with a scabbard which takes in most of the grip, Central Asian style; it is generally made entirely of silver and embossed and chased en suite with the grip. It may date to the mid 1800s, perhaps later. The chape is from a N.W. Persian dagger, probably early 20th century. The figures are characteristic of such work. Ham

14th March 2006, 08:21 PM	#4
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	Well, at least... I've tried.... Ham, would you mind me calling you master?