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23rd December 2020, 03:11 PM | #1 |
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Dear forum members,
I've bought attached balkan ball butt pistol. Do you know how barrel was attached to the stock? There is no place for a pin and it is only fixed by the screw on top of the lock. Example I have was with a band, but for me it looks like not original one (replacement). In some other examples I saw silver wire, but it also looks like a temporary solution (even though .. maybe from the past) |
23rd December 2020, 09:36 PM | #2 |
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Very good catch congratulations!
Please do not use a bad Moroccan band! Just a simple metal wire, iron, lead or copper will do the job Look at the photo above and let us see the result And here my ball butt, I let the pistol as it is. |
23rd December 2020, 10:40 PM | #3 |
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Hello
I wonder if the barrel is not fixed to stock for some kind of payment Affectionately |
24th December 2020, 09:52 AM | #4 | ||
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Of course Moroccan band does not fit and the wire is a way to go. Just wondered how other barrels without a wire are attached to the stock ... Quote:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ht=ball+pistol Can you share what have you used as a red cover of some inlays you have there (it was not a coral per what I see)? I am quite interested as I see that red decorations in ottoman pistols/muskets from Africa, Balkans, .. Do you have a barrel fixed with a pin? |
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25th December 2020, 08:48 PM | #5 |
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Merry Christmas to ALL that celebrate the Holiday.
Hi Kubur. Hope all has been well for you. I've never been able to locate one of these interesting ball-butt Balkan pistols for my collection. At least not at a reasonable price. I think the ball-butt is somewhat a carry over feature from the wheellock era. It would facilitate the hand grip draw from the holster on the horse saddle, and double as a club. And they all seemed built with no trigger guard. Very seldom have I seen any Balkan style pistol that did not include a barrel band(s). The ones that were pin fastened also appeared to European made pistols for export to the Eastern markets. Many of these pistols show up with barrel bands from different areas of the region. And many of the bands are later, period replacements - or just newer made 20th Century replacements. Although I have seen them done with very thin wire, usually brass or silver. It's not too difficult to make a plain barrel band from a sheet of steel, brass, or silver. But most "sheet" material is too thick and difficult to bend and work with. Search for "shim" material. About 0.2032mm is good. Material for missing inlays: Pearl is easiest to obtain. Supply house for musical instruments (guitars) have many shapes and sizes that can be files to fit. Or just blank sheets. Bone, even genuine camel bone can be had from suppliers for custom knife making. The bone can be cut to shape and submerged in tea where it will begin to take an aged appearance. Colored stone type inlays would be more difficult to locate material. While colored glass or even solid colored plastic is available, neither would look right. Of course, genuine semi-precious stones shaped and polished would work, the cost would be too great. I would be looking to find the approximate size red colored beads (not see-through glass) and cut/shape to size. Net looking pistols !! Rick |
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Still alive. I hope that you are fine too and happy new year! Yes you are right these pistols are from the wheellock era, like the Caucasians ones. Quote:
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26th December 2020, 06:08 PM | #7 |
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....and here I add some fotos of another one with ballbutt and a fantasy gunmaker's signature on the lockplate
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26th December 2020, 06:26 PM | #8 | |
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I have another ballbutt with glass inlays and barrel band... |
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26th December 2020, 05:42 PM | #9 | |
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Well I replaced some red by white bone. Many red stones are not coral, in fact a lot of them are red glass. Some red stones? have a hole, I think they were beads like in some jambiya. What I did is very bad, Rick and others will curse me, I used glue. |
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