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Old 13th April 2012, 10:52 AM   #1
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Default Ottoman ? dagger - translation request

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Here are some images of an Ottoman or Caucasus ? dagger I have. The sheath covering and handle are of silver (needs cleaning).

Can someone kindly translate the Turkish ? inscription for me, please.

Comments and identification of the dagger would be welcome - area of origin, approximate age etc...

Length in sheath is around 27cm.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 14th April 2012, 12:46 AM   #2
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Hi

Here are some images of an Ottoman or Caucasus ? dagger I have. The sheath covering and handle are of silver (needs cleaning).

Can someone kindly translate the Turkish ? inscription for me, please.

Comments and identification of the dagger would be welcome - area of origin, approximate age etc...

Length in sheath is around 27cm.

Thanks in advance.
Hi Colin
- Ottoman Bichaq for sure,
- area of origin could be from Balkan
- date early to mid 19 C
after a nice cleaning, will be an very attractive dagger

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Old 16th April 2012, 08:12 AM   #3
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Many thanks, Dom. Very useful information.

Are you able to translate the inscription for me ?

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Old 16th April 2012, 04:26 PM   #4
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Are you able to translate the inscription for me ?
Hi Colin, sorry, to be useless
on a "ya",
- either the "cartouche" contain, Koranic sentence that we are able to translate, because obligatorily in Arabic language
- or, it's in Turkish language, sometimes, some words are common to both languages, as well as; sana (year) amal (made by) saheb (owner), but in your case ... should be entirely in Turkish
just be patient until our dear friend "Zifir" pass by, and give his point of view, he is the "master" in Turkish language

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I prepared a pic, little bite more clear to help the transcription
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Hi Colin
my friend "Zifir" told me ... it's not Turkish language
may be some languages from Minor-Asia, wrote with Arabic alphabet
but which one ??

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Old 23rd April 2012, 03:43 PM   #6
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Hi Dom

Ah well - never mind. Many thanks for your efforts.

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