Unknown Acehenese Dagger?

tjakleg · 29th January 2007, 04:22 AM

Dear all,

much knowledge for Acehenese weapons here . . .
hope anyone can help me. I found this serious looking dagger in Aceh - the people call it BARI? - 40 cm blade - 10 cm hornhandle. I never saw a gagger like that before - I am greadfull for any informations!

and I found a Kris 30 cm blade - 10 cm handle -without any more information.

Thanks for all news and information!

Rick · 29th January 2007, 03:26 PM

This would be much better split into two posts.
The keris should be posted in the Keris Forum.

The Achenese dagger in the Ethno forum.

RhysMichael · 29th January 2007, 09:46 PM

Could the first one be a remounted spear ? The hilt looks similar to a type found on a rentcong

tjakleg · 30th January 2007, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RhysMichael

Could the first one be a remounted spear ? The hilt looks similar to a type found on a rentcong

Hello!
I had the same idear but the tombak with I saw look different close to the hilt, maybe someone knows . . . Thanks!

tjakleg · 30th January 2007, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

This would be much better split into two posts.
The keris should be posted in the Keris Forum.

The Achenese dagger in the Ethno forum.

Hello!
You are right, will try it next time. . .
Regards!

RhysMichael · 2nd February 2007, 12:11 PM

I wasa hoping Utami or Albert would have more on this and they may yet. As I said before the hilt does look aceh, like a form of hulu geureupong ( hulu puntung ). From what I understand these hilts are usually made of horm but sometimes from a coral called gabha ( akar bahar ). I have never seen one with this type of blade and still think it may be from a spear. Teh blade shape, slight swelling at the center of the blade, central ridge and throat all make me think that. The only short blade I can think of from Indonesia that the blade may even slightly resembles is a Pilitai and this to me at least does not have enough of a resemblance to those to point in that direction. sorry I do not have more

utami · 8th February 2007, 02:56 PM

Hi

Sorry John, for late response.

as far i can see , i'm agree that the hilt is aceh style from the shape & size. And the sew on the scabbard also the aceh style. The acehnesse ussually sew the leather on the center of the scabbard. You can see this sew type on some sikin leather scabbard. But I can not identify the blade

as far as i know, the acehnese very rarely made double edge weapon. Most of their weapon is single edge.

29th January 2007, 04:22 AM	#1
tjakleg Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3	Unknown Acehenese Dagger? Dear all, much knowledge for Acehenese weapons here . . . hope anyone can help me. I found this serious looking dagger in Aceh - the people call it BARI? - 40 cm blade - 10 cm hornhandle. I never saw a gagger like that before - I am greadfull for any informations! and I found a Kris 30 cm blade - 10 cm handle -without any more information. Thanks for all news and information! Attached Images

29th January 2007, 03:26 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	This would be much better split into two posts. The keris should be posted in the Keris Forum. The Achenese dagger in the Ethno forum.

29th January 2007, 09:46 PM	#3
RhysMichael Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 520	Could the first one be a remounted spear ? The hilt looks similar to a type found on a rentcong

2nd February 2007, 12:11 PM	#6
RhysMichael Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 520	I wasa hoping Utami or Albert would have more on this and they may yet. As I said before the hilt does look aceh, like a form of hulu geureupong ( hulu puntung ). From what I understand these hilts are usually made of horm but sometimes from a coral called gabha ( akar bahar ). I have never seen one with this type of blade and still think it may be from a spear. Teh blade shape, slight swelling at the center of the blade, central ridge and throat all make me think that. The only short blade I can think of from Indonesia that the blade may even slightly resembles is a Pilitai and this to me at least does not have enough of a resemblance to those to point in that direction. sorry I do not have more

8th February 2007, 02:56 PM	#7
utami Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Java, Indonesia Posts: 49	Hi Sorry John, for late response. as far i can see , i'm agree that the hilt is aceh style from the shape & size. And the sew on the scabbard also the aceh style. The acehnesse ussually sew the leather on the center of the scabbard. You can see this sew type on some sikin leather scabbard. But I can not identify the blade as far as i know, the acehnese very rarely made double edge weapon. Most of their weapon is single edge.