patrem

Ganja Iras · 11th January 2014, 08:39 PM

Dear keris folks ,
Here i share this blade ,an old patrem lombok in kojongan ( sandang walikat ) sheath.
The hilt made of buffalo horn in prabu style.
Any comments are very welcom .
Thanks and regards,

Ganja iras

David · 11th January 2014, 08:51 PM

I would say that all the dress, including the hilt, are contemporary. I like the color of the horn if they are indeed accurate in the photo. What is the length of this blade?

Rick · 12th January 2014, 12:08 AM

Am I the only one who sees a similarity of sorts with the Malay kris posted by Charles ?
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=18043

David · 12th January 2014, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Am I the only one who sees a similarity of sorts with the Malay kris posted by Charles ?
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=18043

If you mean in regards to pamor, most certainly.

Jean · 12th January 2014, 11:54 AM

I have my doubts that this blade actually originates from Lombok, but other opinions are welcome

Regards

David · 12th January 2014, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean

I have my doubts that this blade actually originates from Lombok, but other opinions are welcome

Regards

I wouldn't be surprised. Where were you thinking, Madura?

Jean · 13th January 2014, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

I wouldn't be surprised. Where were you thinking, Madura?

I would prefer to wait the reply from Ganja Iras but yes, East Java/ Madura seems very likely to me.
Regards

Ganja Iras · 16th January 2014, 12:39 AM

Dear friends ,
Thank you very much for the comments and your opinion.
the blade length is 20 centimeters ( gonjo to the tip ).
frankly i dont know much about keris ,so i can't determine the originate of the blade.
The dress ( warangka ) is new made ; purnama sada wood ,but i have no idea about the hilt age.
Thank you.

G.Iras

David · 16th January 2014, 01:16 AM

I would image the hilt is just about as recent as the sheath. It's not a very refined or skilled piece. I generally see better execution on hilts of this material that have any reasonable age to them. I would not be surprised if this entire ensemble was a Madura creation.

11th January 2014, 08:39 PM	#1
Ganja Iras Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 57	patrem Dear keris folks , Here i share this blade ,an old patrem lombok in kojongan ( sandang walikat ) sheath. The hilt made of buffalo horn in prabu style. Any comments are very welcom . Thanks and regards, Ganja iras Attached Images

16th January 2014, 12:39 AM	#8
Ganja Iras Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 57	hi Dear friends , Thank you very much for the comments and your opinion. the blade length is 20 centimeters ( gonjo to the tip ). frankly i dont know much about keris ,so i can't determine the originate of the blade. The dress ( warangka ) is new made ; purnama sada wood ,but i have no idea about the hilt age. Thank you. G.Iras

16th January 2014, 01:16 AM	#9
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,023	I would image the hilt is just about as recent as the sheath. It's not a very refined or skilled piece. I generally see better execution on hilts of this material that have any reasonable age to them. I would not be surprised if this entire ensemble was a Madura creation. Last edited by David; 18th January 2014 at 08:47 PM.

11th January 2014, 08:51 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,023	I would say that all the dress, including the hilt, are contemporary. I like the color of the horn if they are indeed accurate in the photo. What is the length of this blade?

12th January 2014, 12:08 AM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	Am I the only one who sees a similarity of sorts with the Malay kris posted by Charles ? http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=18043

12th January 2014, 11:54 AM	#5
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	I have my doubts that this blade actually originates from Lombok, but other opinions are welcome Regards