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Old 17th March 2024, 02:37 AM   #1
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Maasai, Samburu, Karamojong, Turkana, etc. come to mind as possible sources. This spear type is common in East Africa.

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Old 17th March 2024, 02:49 AM   #2
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It "feels good" to me if you know what I mean.
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Old 17th March 2024, 11:41 AM   #3
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Hello Ed

Please show me the back of the spear.

IMHO the Maasai have more primitive production, here is a modern example.

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Old 17th March 2024, 06:22 PM   #4
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Maasai, Samburu, Karamojong, Turkana, etc. come to mind as possible sources. This spear type is common in East Africa.

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I agree, I know this spear (had some myself) as being a Samburu spear, very common among the tourists in Kenia . They are even reproduced by companies like cold steel , they are nice spears but fairly common.
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Old 17th March 2024, 07:33 PM   #5
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I don't know much about spears, especially not about African ones but the one in question shows a very different quality as the other shown ones.
I had some antique Maasai spears, the description of the three segments point to a origin like suggested, but the tip looks different.
Ed, can you show more from the spear? Haft and butt?

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Old 17th March 2024, 09:38 PM   #6
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Here are some more pictures. The two sides of the head are virtually the same. Please ask if you need more description.
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Old 17th March 2024, 09:41 PM   #7
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FWIW I took a look at the Cold Steel version. Not really close. CS is "manufactured". This one is "crafted" if you see what I mean.
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Old 17th March 2024, 10:56 PM   #8
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Ed, I may upset you. This spear is made in Kenya or Tanzania for tourists.

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Old 17th March 2024, 11:47 PM   #9
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It's indeed typical for the Maasai and surrounding ethnos but it seems very recently to my eyes. I don't think it's manufactured.

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Old 18th March 2024, 02:14 AM   #10
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It seems rather ungainly for a tourist piece.
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