klewang golok ??????????????

semar · 19th July 2014, 01:17 PM

hello ho can tell me more about this blade ware its come from and what type of blade it is

Thank you Semar

Gavin Nugent · 19th July 2014, 01:45 PM

Have you bought it?

It looks by blade type to be a Pedang from Sumatra. The hilt type however doesn't ring any bells without hitting the books...

semar · 19th July 2014, 03:19 PM

yes long time ago but i never found out the type and the orgin of this blad i look in the book from zonneveld but its not in there

regards semar

Sajen · 19th July 2014, 08:32 PM

Hello Semar,

I don't remember to have seen something similar. But I like it!

Regards,
Detlef

semar · 21st July 2014, 09:55 AM

thank you Detlef

Ian · 22nd July 2014, 08:58 PM

Hello Semar:

Thank you for posting this interesting and challenging example.

i have not seen one exactly similar to this, but it seems to be either Indonesian or perhaps from the Philippines.

The D-guard is reminiscent of the Malay parang nabur and of the southern Luzon minasbad, but is clearly different from those two in several respects--most notably the triangular, fan-shaped pommel.

In imagining the hilt without the D-guard it reminds me somewhat of the Timor hilts, types a and b, that appear in Albert van Zonneveld's book Traditional Weapons of the Indonesian Archipelago (pp 137-138). In particular, the triangular pommel and an "eye" or "rosette" are present on your sword. The Timor hilts (as are those on the minasbad) are made from carabao horn, and yours appears to be made of horn also.

On none of the swords I have mentioned have I seen, either personally or in pictures, a fluted grip as shown on yours. Also, the blade type is inconsistent with a parang nabur although maybe a possibility for a minasbad, while Timor swords have a variety of blades, including parang, pedang, and klewang styles.

If pushed to make some estimation of where this is from, I would say it is either an adaptation of the hilt seen on Timor swords or an indigenous sword from the eastern part of the Indonesian archipelago, of a type not present in van Zonneveld's book.

Perhaps our Belgium-Dutch-German forumites have more information on this one.

Ian.

19th July 2014, 01:17 PM	#1
semar Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 272	klewang golok ?????????????? hello ho can tell me more about this blade ware its come from and what type of blade it is Thank you Semar Attached Images

22nd July 2014, 08:58 PM	#6
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,034	Definitely a mystery Hello Semar: Thank you for posting this interesting and challenging example. i have not seen one exactly similar to this, but it seems to be either Indonesian or perhaps from the Philippines. The D-guard is reminiscent of the Malay parang nabur and of the southern Luzon minasbad, but is clearly different from those two in several respects--most notably the triangular, fan-shaped pommel. In imagining the hilt without the D-guard it reminds me somewhat of the Timor hilts, types a and b, that appear in Albert van Zonneveld's book Traditional Weapons of the Indonesian Archipelago (pp 137-138). In particular, the triangular pommel and an "eye" or "rosette" are present on your sword. The Timor hilts (as are those on the minasbad) are made from carabao horn, and yours appears to be made of horn also. On none of the swords I have mentioned have I seen, either personally or in pictures, a fluted grip as shown on yours. Also, the blade type is inconsistent with a parang nabur although maybe a possibility for a minasbad, while Timor swords have a variety of blades, including parang, pedang, and klewang styles. If pushed to make some estimation of where this is from, I would say it is either an adaptation of the hilt seen on Timor swords or an indigenous sword from the eastern part of the Indonesian archipelago, of a type not present in van Zonneveld's book. Perhaps our Belgium-Dutch-German forumites have more information on this one. Ian. Last edited by Ian; 22nd July 2014 at 09:12 PM.

19th July 2014, 01:45 PM	#2
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Have you bought it? It looks by blade type to be a Pedang from Sumatra. The hilt type however doesn't ring any bells without hitting the books...

19th July 2014, 03:19 PM	#3
semar Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 272	yes long time ago but i never found out the type and the orgin of this blad i look in the book from zonneveld but its not in there regards semar

19th July 2014, 08:32 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,510	Hello Semar, I don't remember to have seen something similar. But I like it! Regards, Detlef

21st July 2014, 09:55 AM	#5
semar Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 272	thank you Detlef