Please Help -- What is this?

CourseEight · 24th June 2007, 03:19 AM

Hello all --

I recently got this, but have no idea what it is. I doubt its a weapon, but I can't think of what it might be. It's brass, made in two pieces, with the rod threaded and screwing into the "head." On the head part, there is a seel piece inserted as shown, almost like a giant safety razor. The stones appear to be genuine, as opposed to plastic.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

--Radleigh

ariel · 24th June 2007, 04:59 AM

Strangely, it reminds me of an Afghani Lohar.

Valjhun · 24th June 2007, 11:34 AM

That's because it is Afghan

And not antique. Those were used in the past for cutting flintstones for jezails. Now they are produced as a tourist item and often brought back by GI's from Afghanistan.

CourseEight · 24th June 2007, 02:01 PM

Thanks!

Valjhun · 24th June 2007, 02:08 PM

Here is mine... A gift form a Slovenian officer stationed in Kabul.

Jim McDougall · 24th June 2007, 02:22 PM

Wow! I am extremely impressed, this rang absolutely no bells at fist viewing, but Ariel's observation noting resemblance to a lohar was clearly most astute!

Valjhun, nicely done with your identification and comments, thank you.
This is great for the notes on very unusual ethnographic items

Now with this strange item identified I can see a degree of geometric decoration resemblance, and in recalling the earlier discussions on the mysteries of the lohar, I recall observations that they too may be recently produced for souveniers. It is interesting to see these implements and weapons produced in modern times represented vestigially to recall the traditions and history of thier former uses.

Thank you very much gentlemen!!!

All the best,
Jim

CourseEight · 24th June 2007, 02:32 PM

Yup, that's it all right! Thanks for posting the picture. Mine just came from a junk shop for a few dollars. I figured it was touristy, but it was pretty and ethnographic-looking so bought it.

Thanks to you I now know where its from!

--Radleigh

Rick · 24th June 2007, 03:56 PM

I think we've been down this road before .

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=sugar+hammer

BBJW · 25th June 2007, 04:15 AM

Yes a candy cutter or ice shaver, but not a lohar.

bbjw

Jim McDougall · 25th June 2007, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

I think we've been down this road before .

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=sugar+hammer

'Shaver Cool' man!!!!

Mark · 25th June 2007, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

'Shaver Cool' man!!!!

Don't even go there ...

Jim McDougall · 25th June 2007, 05:12 PM

Couldn't resist Mark!!! JUDL !!

24th June 2007, 03:19 AM	#1
CourseEight Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 222	Please Help -- What is this? Hello all -- I recently got this, but have no idea what it is. I doubt its a weapon, but I can't think of what it might be. It's brass, made in two pieces, with the rod threaded and screwing into the "head." On the head part, there is a seel piece inserted as shown, almost like a giant safety razor. The stones appear to be genuine, as opposed to plastic. Any help would be greatly appreciated! --Radleigh Attached Images

24th June 2007, 02:08 PM	#5
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	Here is mine... A gift form a Slovenian officer stationed in Kabul. Attached Images

24th June 2007, 03:56 PM	#8
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	Sugar Hammer ?? I think we've been down this road before . http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=sugar+hammer

25th June 2007, 04:15 AM	#9
BBJW Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Idaho, USA Posts: 225	Not a lohar Yes a candy cutter or ice shaver, but not a lohar. bbjw

24th June 2007, 04:59 AM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Strangely, it reminds me of an Afghani Lohar.

24th June 2007, 11:34 AM	#3
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	That's because it is Afghan And not antique. Those were used in the past for cutting flintstones for jezails. Now they are produced as a tourist item and often brought back by GI's from Afghanistan.

24th June 2007, 02:01 PM	#4
CourseEight Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 222	Thanks!

24th June 2007, 02:22 PM	#6
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,748	Wow! I am extremely impressed, this rang absolutely no bells at fist viewing, but Ariel's observation noting resemblance to a lohar was clearly most astute! Valjhun, nicely done with your identification and comments, thank you. This is great for the notes on very unusual ethnographic items Now with this strange item identified I can see a degree of geometric decoration resemblance, and in recalling the earlier discussions on the mysteries of the lohar, I recall observations that they too may be recently produced for souveniers. It is interesting to see these implements and weapons produced in modern times represented vestigially to recall the traditions and history of thier former uses. Thank you very much gentlemen!!! All the best, Jim

24th June 2007, 02:32 PM	#7
CourseEight Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 222	Yup, that's it all right! Thanks for posting the picture. Mine just came from a junk shop for a few dollars. I figured it was touristy, but it was pretty and ethnographic-looking so bought it. Thanks to you I now know where its from! --Radleigh

25th June 2007, 05:12 PM	#12
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,748	Couldn't resist Mark!!! JUDL !!