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Old 8th December 2012, 03:56 PM   #1
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Default Need id and translation for a big blunderbuss.

Need id and translation for a big blunderbuss.
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I hope somebody could be able to tell me more about this quiet big blunderbuss. I don’t know in which language the marks in the stock are. The total size is around 125 cm for around 6 KG.
I Guess it was a English flintlock blunderbuss who was turn into percussion.
IT will be fantastic is someone will be able to translate those marks.
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Old 10th December 2012, 06:19 PM   #2
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still need help to translate or ID the marks .
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Old 10th December 2012, 06:59 PM   #3
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I don't know anything of blunderbusses.

But the motifs are Islamic talismans and the rattan bindings resembles those usually found on the Dayak mandau.
So my guess is that it might come from the Banjarmasin area in south Borneo where both these features are common.

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Old 10th December 2012, 08:49 PM   #4
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the motifs are Islamic talismans
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YES, it's Islamic talismanic writing, but, through Arabic language,
means nothing intelligible
by vocation, everything related to magic is often very obscure
for the not initiated

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i can read it and it is in arabic. but i can read only the individual characters because the words dont make sense. i think the word in the centre is similar to شيطان which means "devil" / satan.

but i am not sure. it is just a possible answer.
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Old 11th December 2012, 06:43 AM   #6
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i can read it and it is in arabic. but i can read only the individual characters because the words dont make sense. i think the word in the centre is similar to شيطان which means "devil" / satan.

but i am not sure. it is just a possible answer.
It's not Satan/Iblis etc. but related to djinns etc. being the 7 seals of Solomon.
See the related thread
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=16496

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Dom,

Maybe the writing is based on simiya' (the art where the letters represent mathematical values of hidden words, names etc.)?

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Wow. I like this blunderbuss a lot!
Very cool. I would say Banjarmasin area also as Michael stated, as there were a lot of Blunderbusses used in the Banjarmasin war. The knots indeed looks like dayak knots used to hold the two slabs of wood of the scabbard together.

I've attached an image of some blunderbusses on a litograph of (about) 1881, Bronbeek museum Arnhem.


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[QUOTE=Cerjak]still need help to translate or ID the marks .
I hope it will solved....[/QU
ı read '' haci sedat tahir '' but after words not familiar
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still need help to translate or ID the marks .
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ı read '' haci sedat tahir '' but after words not familiar
Dear Archer,

Please could you let me know from where are you reading those words and what it means : word or name ?
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Need id and translation for a big blunderbuss.
Hi everybody
I hope somebody could be able to tell me more about this quiet big blunderbuss. I don’t know in which language the marks in the stock are. The total size is around 125 cm for around 6 KG.
I Guess it was a English flintlock blunderbuss who was turn into percussion.
IT will be fantastic is someone will be able to translate those marks.
Best regards

Cerjak
Hi all , ı read hacı sadraci on butt it arabic but not Türk
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