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Old 3rd April 2024, 08:34 PM   #1
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This pamor is made by forging a mlumah bakalan into a miring bakalan & then forging to shape without using protective plates.
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Old 3rd April 2024, 09:48 PM   #2
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Thank you all for the info on my Bali/ Lombok Keris.

I made a new thread around the Tegal Keris I got in the same lot at auction.
Would love to know more about it.

Regards, Martin
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Old 3rd April 2024, 11:25 PM   #3
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So maybe this keris is Aiq Ngelek if in Lombok, or Ilining Warih if in Bali, or something else if in somewhere else?
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Old 4th April 2024, 05:30 AM   #4
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That pamor didn't come through real clear, so hopefully this pic is better.
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Old 4th April 2024, 11:20 AM   #5
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On Keris with Pamor Aiq Ngelek which I have handled so far, the appearance of Pamor Miring in the middle of blade is created by the quite high middle ridge and the couple of mlumah layers contained in that ridge. The exageration of it could be one feature indicating Lombok origin of a blade.
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Old 5th April 2024, 07:53 AM   #6
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You could well be right Gustav.

I have also seen what you refer to, and by using a high ada-ada it is possible to give that impression of pamor miring.

I have not encountered the use of the name "aiq ngelek" in Bali, I have come across it for the first time in this thread, I possibly did see your old post, but I'd forgotten it. In any case, made as a mlumah pamor, it is seemingly done by blade contour, made in the forge it done as I explained, & the end result of each method looks pretty similar.

As far as names go, in Javanese keris the pamor "Banyu Mili" has the meaning "Flowing Water", which one might think makes it the same as "Aiq Ngelek" & "Ilining Warih", but Banyu Mili is most definitely a pamor miring of the adeg type, no traces of random wos wutah at all.

That keris I posted pics of would have been Banyu Mili if it had been forged out with protective plates.
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