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Old 19th April 2012, 05:29 PM   #31
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I usually use 1 l water and 4 dl vinegar, so the solution is not too aggressive.
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Old 19th April 2012, 11:55 PM   #32
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Well, I read many posts on this forum regarding pineapple juice and saw for myself the great results from kerises soaked in it. So, right now, I have two of my kerises (one of which is the blade this thread features) soaking in pineapple juice. I will monitor closely and post pictures of the results when they are ready.
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Old 20th April 2012, 12:07 AM   #33
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Unsweetened juice; correct ?
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Old 20th April 2012, 12:37 AM   #34
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Unsweetened juice; correct ?
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Old 21st April 2012, 04:55 PM   #35
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Okay, after two days in the pineapple juice the blade was free of rust! The other keris will be awhile. Now, the sheath is another story. I went to remove the pendok and found that someone had epoxied it onto the gandar - what a mess! I tried to remove it as gently as possible, but still some minor damage occured and getting the glue off of the wood was no fun. I ended up sanding the entire thing trying to get it to look half-way decent. Now I'll need to stain it - NOT my original intention. I'll include an early sanding picture. Now matter what - it'll be an improvement!

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Old 21st April 2012, 06:18 PM   #36
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Looks like the blade has only residual pamor left .
I would suggest shellac for the final finish of the scabbard .
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Old 21st April 2012, 08:08 PM   #37
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In such situation I remove the ganja: there is always a lot of rust on the lower part of the tang and between ganja and blade.
After cleaning I apply an anti-rust product on all non -visible places.
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Old 21st April 2012, 08:39 PM   #38
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Looks like the blade has only residual pamor left .
I would suggest shellac for the final finish of the scabbard .
Agree with you in both cases! This (the residual pamor) was the reason why I have written before that this keris is in my opinion not a "keeper" since I have thought that the pamor is gone.

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Old 21st April 2012, 10:36 PM   #39
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In such situation I remove the ganja
Speaking only for myself, this is something I would never try .
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Old 21st April 2012, 10:40 PM   #40
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Speaking only for myself, this is something I would never try .
Seems that we both have a lot of agreement for the moment!

The possibility that the ganja break by this old piece is very high! And I can't see many corrosion between ganja and blade.

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Old 21st April 2012, 11:20 PM   #41
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This (the residual pamor) was the reason why I have written before that this keris is in my opinion not a "keeper" since I have thought that the pamor is gone.
Hey Detlef...do you remember your first love. Maybe she didn't really kiss that well (by your now more worldly standards) and she might not have been the best looking of all the girls that came after, but she will always be a "keeper" in your memory, won't she.
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Old 21st April 2012, 11:29 PM   #42
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I will admit to buying a keris with residual pamor; and recently .....
The edges had been cleaned up and the blade re-stained . The pamor left on the blade (very old) was an adeg form indicating likely empu manufacture .

My very first keris was a very old example and quite raggedy edged; it was from the Sultan Agung era .

I still have it ... of course .
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Hey Detlef...do you remember your first love. Maybe she didn't really kiss that well (by your now more worldly standards) and she might not have been the best looking of all the girls that came after, but she will always be a "keeper" in your memory, won't she.
Hi David,

I still remember that she kissed very well! Like I have written before, when Dan like this keris he should keep him. And it seems that he is on the way to give this keris what he should get. I only want to say that I might to see already before that there don't will be any visible pamor anymore.

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Old 21st April 2012, 11:50 PM   #44
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I will admit to buying a keris with residual pamor; and recently .....
The edges had been cleaned up and the blade re-stained . The pamor left on the blade (very old) was an adeg form indicating likely empu manufacture .

My very first keris was a very old example and quite raggedy edged; it was from the Sultan Agung era .

I still have it ... of course .
I think we all have a keris like this, I am as well. Nothing wrong by this. See what I have answered David.

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Old 22nd April 2012, 01:34 AM   #45
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Yes, Detlef .
All my girlfriends were beautiful; every single one !

















Of course my Wife is the best of them all !!

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Old 22nd April 2012, 03:28 PM   #46
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A smart answer there Rick...
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