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Old 25th November 2006, 06:44 PM   #1
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Default Dayak parang ilang Handle

An very rare handle
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Old 25th November 2006, 07:28 PM   #2
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Yes and the exact type I want to get when I grow up (and have money again ).

Is this rare due to the silver on the hilt?

Did you get this from eBay (saw another identical to this)?
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Old 25th November 2006, 07:56 PM   #3
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Hi Battara yes I did get this one from ebay it is 19 centh and also rare with silver on the handle on the top off the handle same design as they use on heads

It was very cheap it surprise me that it was not recognised as an important piece.

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Old 26th November 2006, 12:37 AM   #4
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Congratulations Ben!

Are those stylized leeches on the first hilt picture? I have heard that they were put there to give the Mandau a taste for blood.
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Old 26th November 2006, 09:11 AM   #5
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... I did get this one from ebay...It was very cheap it surprise me that it was not recognised as an important piece.

Ben
Nicer than I assumed - congratulations.
That's the problem with buying from pictures; you usually get some kind of surprise. In this case a positive surprise.
I was no 2 and my top bid, based on the insecurity because of the pictures, wasn't what most people would consider a bargain???
But compared to the prices of some top dealers in Amsterdam it of course was relatively quite cheap.

Could you please also share some pictures of the blade and sheath?


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Old 26th November 2006, 05:23 PM   #6
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Hi thanks Here are some more pics the strange thing about the blade is that
the blade is concave and the otherside is convex this is normal with an parang ilang but the crowit at the handle and the point we see not at an parang ilang .
I did not see from the pic that this mandau had no flat blade , and that the carry band was complete I only saw that it was the old style carry band.
But scabbard style looks like 1850 or earlyer.

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Old 26th November 2006, 08:18 PM   #7
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Nice catch Ben!

I find the carved rib over the Tumpal (Tree of life) motif on the handle very unusual. Have you seen it before?

On the crowit and point I am not sure what you mean?
Maybe you could post some close ups of those parts of the blade and explain?
It's hard to see on the, quite dark, overall picture of the blade.

Don't you think the silver work resemble motifs found on Melanau hilts?

Bill, I think that the leech and taste of blood story is something made up outside Borneo.
But of course I might be wrong?
Like the story about the brass dots representing amount of taken heads etc.

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