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Old 18th September 2010, 12:16 PM   #1
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Thumbs up A Final Pattern-welded (twist core) Budiak - perhaps Bagobo?

This was my reward one year for joining the opening gate herd at the Cow Palace in Timonium, stampeding straight to the Oriental Arms booth and not hesitating to immediately pull out the wallet before scanning the rest of the show.

Retaining its old decorated shaft, this budiak weighs in at 1,354 grams (just under 3 pounds) and stretches 2,076 mm (just under 82 inches) in overall length.

The neck of this blade tapers into a square before transitioning into a wider round base (see also this post).

Comparing with the illustrations in Krieger, particularly plate 6 #12, and weighing way too much on the white metal (German silver) bands on the shaft, would this best be attributed as Bagobo?
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Old 18th September 2010, 04:50 PM   #2
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What a wonderful piece! Looks like the one Ian got at Timonium years ago (and beat me to it! ).

I would disagree with the Bagobo attribution for now. Missing the cast and chasing work on the brass that I would expect from the Bagobos. It looks Moro budiak to me so far.
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Old 18th September 2010, 06:25 PM   #3
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Beautiful and interesting budiak's you have Lee!

Is there any evidence visible that there had been some kind of endcap at the butt, because the wood is a bit longer as the brass/silver endpiece??

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Actually Maurice this type of spear end is not that unusual for Moro and Lumad spears/lances.
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Old 20th September 2010, 09:54 AM   #5
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Thumbs up I shall catalog it as Moro

Thank you Battara - I knew I was out on a limb with that attribution; I just have not seen enough reference examples of these up close.

Maurice, from what I can tell there was never any more to the butt treatment. Water damaged wood does protrude a few millimeters. I guess the cap would impede it sinking too far into moist earth, or not?
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I guess the cap would impede it sinking too far into moist earth, or not?
That is the idea.

Some butt caps seal the end. Then there are those with no butt caps......
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