Partisan 16t - 17th ?

fernando · 18th May 2020, 06:48 PM

Looks to me like a cross potent (Jerusalem).
Interestingly the coat of arms you show has the Portuguese inescutcheon; which make sense as, by then, Portugal was part of the Filipes crown.

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AndreaFeraro89 · 24th May 2020, 05:04 PM

Hi all,
beautiful example of a Partisan!
Maybe it looks like a beginning of XVI century model, maybe Northern Italy production.

Details that suggest me this datation are :
-presence of pointille technique, in use between the end of XV and beginning of XVI century.
-presence of an hight crest on the center that is very tipical of italian production between the last quarter of XV century, beginning of XVI. You can see same geometry on some venetian estoc blades.
-You can see, from comparison with the later example you have, also that the socket have a more conical shape and octagonal section (very typical also of XV-XVI century hafted weapons made in Italy).
-The shape is very triangular and the base of blade is very very large (also typical of this region-date. You will notice that in the later example the blade shape is not as triangular, and near the point the angulation became more repentine, this is peculiar of second half of XVI-XVII century partisans.

You can find some examples here, Italian as suggested by RA too.

https://collections.royalarmouries.o...ect-23739.html
https://collections.royalarmouries.o...ject-2648.html

Cheers
Giovanni

18th May 2020, 06:48 PM	#1
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,651	Looks to me like a cross potent (Jerusalem). Interestingly the coat of arms you show has the Portuguese inescutcheon; which make sense as, by then, Portugal was part of the Filipes crown. . Attached Images

24th May 2020, 05:04 PM	#2
AndreaFeraro89 Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Posts: 13	Hi all, beautiful example of a Partisan! Maybe it looks like a beginning of XVI century model, maybe Northern Italy production. Details that suggest me this datation are : -presence of pointille technique, in use between the end of XV and beginning of XVI century. -presence of an hight crest on the center that is very tipical of italian production between the last quarter of XV century, beginning of XVI. You can see same geometry on some venetian estoc blades. -You can see, from comparison with the later example you have, also that the socket have a more conical shape and octagonal section (very typical also of XV-XVI century hafted weapons made in Italy). -The shape is very triangular and the base of blade is very very large (also typical of this region-date. You will notice that in the later example the blade shape is not as triangular, and near the point the angulation became more repentine, this is peculiar of second half of XVI-XVII century partisans. You can find some examples here, Italian as suggested by RA too. https://collections.royalarmouries.o...ect-23739.html https://collections.royalarmouries.o...ject-2648.html Cheers Giovanni