kaskara for komment...and translation

stephen wood · 30th September 2009, 03:20 PM

An interesting example - engraving to both sides of the blade, a nice scabbard with a double strap, good condition overall....
Quite similar to this one and this one.
The silver-hilted one in Christopher Spring "African Arms and Armour" appears quite similar too.

colin henshaw · 1st October 2009, 07:00 PM

Looks a fine sword, Stephen. Presumably it has received a new scabbard and leather hilt fairly recently.

Would be interesting to have a translation of the Arabic script.

Regards.

stephen wood · 1st October 2009, 08:01 PM

Yes, all the leatherwork is relatively new and supple. The joins on the scabbard are glued - older scabbards tend to be stitched. I wonder about the significance of the "leaves" and the long cords on the strap. Similar, longer attachments are found on Manding scabbards I think...The inscriptions is said to be a well-known Koranic verse which translated approximately says "...if God is on our side nothing can harm us".

Dom · 5th October 2009, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by stephen wood

The inscriptions is said to be a well-known Koranic verse which translated approximately says "...if God is on our side nothing can harm us".

Hi Stephen
a little more precisly
the 1st lign is part (first sentence) of the verse 58 surate "Al Furqan"
" .... WA TAKALTO ALA EL LAZI LAYAMOUT CHA'HET AL WOUGOUD" either in English; "AND TRUST THOU IN THE LIVEING ONE WHO DIETH NO".

the 2nd sentence; certainly extracted from the Holy quran, but I didn't find exactly the surate
" WA OMAT AL APTSAR WA TAWAKALTO ALA ALLAH EL WAHED QL KA'HARE" either in English; "WITNESS FOR OUR TIME BEING, THEIR VIEW IS BLIND, GOD IS UNIQUE AND ALWAYS VICTORIOUS".

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Dom

stephen wood · 5th October 2009, 12:49 AM

wow

many thanks Dom...

Jim McDougall · 5th October 2009, 04:33 AM

Nice work Dom! Thank you for always being so helpful with these inscriptions, it really adds so much to appreciating these swords.

Is there some explanation for the crescent symbolism as seen here in multiple sequences? Something key to the Sudan ? It seems we have seen this motif on some other kaskaras.

Dom · 9th October 2009, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dom

wrong message,
mix photos, and then pic and translation are not for the "kaskara", sorry Stephen

Hi Stephen
a little more precisly
the 1st lign is part (first sentence) of the verse 58 surate "Al Furqan"
" .... WA TAKALTO ALA EL LAZI LAYAMOUT CHA'HET AL WOUGOUD" either in English; "AND TRUST THOU IN THE LIVEING ONE WHO DIETH NO".

the 2nd sentence; certainly extracted from the Holy quran, but I didn't find exactly the surate
" WA OMAT AL APTSAR WA TAWAKALTO ALA ALLAH EL WAHED QL KA'HARE" either in English; "WITNESS FOR OUR TIME BEING, THEIR VIEW IS BLIND, GOD IS UNIQUE AND ALWAYS VICTORIOUS".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dom

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Dom

Dom · 9th October 2009, 03:15 AM

Hi Stephen ... now your right translation
I'm realy confuse, and deeply sorry for that mess

- BISMILLAH IN YANSURKOM ALLAH FALLA RALEB (lakum) either in English IN THE NAME OF GOD WHO IS GIVING THE VICTORY WHO IS (INVINCIBLE)

- LAKUM ALLAHOU AKBAR WA ILLAH AL KHAMD ALLAHOU AKBAR either in English (invincible) GOD IS THE MOST GREAT WHO IS UNIQUE ALL THANKS FOR HIM GOD IS THE MOST GREAT

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Dom

30th September 2009, 03:20 PM	#1
stephen wood Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 227	kaskara for komment...and translation An interesting example - engraving to both sides of the blade, a nice scabbard with a double strap, good condition overall.... Quite similar to this one and this one. The silver-hilted one in Christopher Spring "African Arms and Armour" appears quite similar too. Attached Images Last edited by stephen wood; 30th September 2009 at 07:57 PM.

1st October 2009, 08:01 PM	#3
stephen wood Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 227	Yes, all the leatherwork is relatively new and supple. The joins on the scabbard are glued - older scabbards tend to be stitched. I wonder about the significance of the "leaves" and the long cords on the strap. Similar, longer attachments are found on Manding scabbards I think...The inscriptions is said to be a well-known Koranic verse which translated approximately says "...if God is on our side nothing can harm us". Last edited by stephen wood; 2nd October 2009 at 02:36 PM.

9th October 2009, 03:15 AM	#8
Dom Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Paris (FR*) Cairo (EG) Posts: 1,142	Hi Stephen ... now your right translation I'm realy confuse, and deeply sorry for that mess - BISMILLAH IN YANSURKOM ALLAH FALLA RALEB (lakum) either in English IN THE NAME OF GOD WHO IS GIVING THE VICTORY WHO IS (INVINCIBLE) - LAKUM ALLAHOU AKBAR WA ILLAH AL KHAMD ALLAHOU AKBAR either in English *(invincible) GOD IS THE MOST GREAT WHO IS UNIQUE ALL THANKS FOR HIM GOD IS THE MOST GREAT* à + Dom Attached Images Last edited by Dom; 9th October 2009 at 03:41 AM.

1st October 2009, 07:00 PM	#2
colin henshaw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,430	Looks a fine sword, Stephen. Presumably it has received a new scabbard and leather hilt fairly recently. Would be interesting to have a translation of the Arabic script. Regards.

5th October 2009, 12:49 AM	#5
stephen wood Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 227	wow many thanks Dom...

5th October 2009, 04:33 AM	#6
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,767	Nice work Dom! Thank you for always being so helpful with these inscriptions, it really adds so much to appreciating these swords. Is there some explanation for the crescent symbolism as seen here in multiple sequences? Something key to the Sudan ? It seems we have seen this motif on some other kaskaras.