Blade Markings on a peudeueng peusangan from Aceh

RhysMichael · 20th October 2005, 05:32 PM

The following sword is a peudeueng peusangan ( aka sikkin peusangan, aka pedang type 2) with a Hulu Meu Apet from Aceh that just closed on ebay. I bid on it but did not win. Derreck's Antiques was kind enough to give me permission to research and use the pictures in a paper I hope to finish soon on these swords. This is the first marked blade I have seen on them. I have gotten a great deal of help with information on these swords here before and I am hoping that someone will recognize the markings. Initially it reminded me of the half moon marks seen on kaskara and such. The pictures are the property of Derrecks Antiques

The sword is the common form with a bit nicer pommel than is normally seen

Here are the markings

Thanks in advance and thanks again to Derrecks Antiques for allowing me to use the pictures.

John

RhysMichael · 1st November 2005, 02:56 AM

Bumping this back to the top hoping someone will see it with some ideas

VANDOO · 1st November 2005, 03:26 AM

A INTERESTING SWORD TYPE ESPECIALLY TO BE FROM SUMATRA AND THE ACEH PEOPLE. IS IT A TYPE IMPORTED FROM INDIA OR PERHAPS INTRODUCED OR MADE BY A MOSLEM SMITH FROM INDIA? IF THAT IS THE CASE PERHAPS THERE ARE LINKS TO THE MARKS IN INDIA OR IT MAY BE A MAKERS MARK FOR THE FAMILY OR COMPANY WHO MADE THEM IN SUMATRA. GOOD LUCK

ariel · 1st November 2005, 03:45 AM

Indians went to Sumatra and introduced this hilt (Gulabhati became Hulu Meu Apet) as well as Piso Podang (see Elgood's book)
Nothing Muslim here, pure Hindu tradition.

RhysMichael · 1st November 2005, 07:27 AM

Like Ariel said there was Hindu and Buddist influence there possibly as early as the 1st century AD. And they can be found with imported Indian blades. I have one with a nice mechanical damascus blade.

20th October 2005, 05:32 PM	#1
RhysMichael Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 520	Blade Markings on a peudeueng peusangan from Aceh The following sword is a peudeueng peusangan ( aka sikkin peusangan, aka pedang type 2) with a Hulu Meu Apet from Aceh that just closed on ebay. I bid on it but did not win. Derreck's Antiques was kind enough to give me permission to research and use the pictures in a paper I hope to finish soon on these swords. This is the first marked blade I have seen on them. I have gotten a great deal of help with information on these swords here before and I am hoping that someone will recognize the markings. Initially it reminded me of the half moon marks seen on kaskara and such. The pictures are the property of Derrecks Antiques The sword is the common form with a bit nicer pommel than is normally seen Here are the markings Thanks in advance and thanks again to Derrecks Antiques for allowing me to use the pictures. John

1st November 2005, 02:56 AM	#2
RhysMichael Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 520	Bumping this back to the top hoping someone will see it with some ideas

1st November 2005, 03:26 AM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A INTERESTING SWORD TYPE ESPECIALLY TO BE FROM SUMATRA AND THE ACEH PEOPLE. IS IT A TYPE IMPORTED FROM INDIA OR PERHAPS INTRODUCED OR MADE BY A MOSLEM SMITH FROM INDIA? IF THAT IS THE CASE PERHAPS THERE ARE LINKS TO THE MARKS IN INDIA OR IT MAY BE A MAKERS MARK FOR THE FAMILY OR COMPANY WHO MADE THEM IN SUMATRA. GOOD LUCK

1st November 2005, 03:45 AM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Indians went to Sumatra and introduced this hilt (Gulabhati became Hulu Meu Apet) as well as Piso Podang (see Elgood's book) Nothing Muslim here, pure Hindu tradition.

1st November 2005, 07:27 AM	#5
RhysMichael Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 520	Like Ariel said there was Hindu and Buddist influence there possibly as early as the 1st century AD. And they can be found with imported Indian blades. I have one with a nice mechanical damascus blade.