Do Parang Naburs have laminated blades?

erikscollectables · 13th October 2010, 07:27 PM

Just got this parang nabur. I like it a lot but it seems to be a quite average version.

Now my question is - do these have laminated blades in general?

On the back I can see muliple layers in some places and also on the blade itself.

I looked at all the older posts about PN's and found one with pamor but that was a doubtful blade looking at the reactions. This blade is original IMHO and certainly arrived in Holland before 1940.

Hope to hear your experience on this.

Regards, Erik

Atlantia · 13th October 2010, 07:35 PM

Its a beautiful weapon. I'm not familiar with the construction of these, but I'd have thought it a prime candidate for a gentle etch!
hardened edge?

Gavin Nugent · 13th October 2010, 11:34 PM

Nice Piece,

Of the few I have handled, I have encountered all having an inserted edge.

Gav

kai · 14th October 2010, 07:49 AM

Hello Erik,

Just a few observations. Michael is our resident expert on Negara weapons - hope he'll chime in.

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Just got this parang nabur. I like it a lot but it seems to be a quite average version.

The fittings are above average and the blade appears to be quite long - most Beladah Belabang have blades just over 20 inches.

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On the back I can see muliple layers in some places and also on the blade itself.

Yes, your blade should be laminated with hardened edge. However, in most BB blades the contrast seems to be very low (less than in, say, many Aceh blades). OTOH, I can't remember anyone giving these an intentional etch; so, there may be something hidden in some of these...

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I looked at all the older posts about PN's and found one with pamor but that was a doubtful blade looking at the reactions.

If I remember the same piece, that looked downright cheesy IMHO.

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This blade is original IMHO and certainly arrived in Holland before 1940.

Yes, I'd also guess at 1900-1940 for this BB.

Regards,
Kai

erikscollectables · 14th October 2010, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kai

Yes, I'd also guess at 1900-1940 for this BB.

Hi Kai, Thanks for the extensive answer!

I started looking into info on these and got a page from a book by Schmeltz about these weapons. Mine seems to be almost identical to the one pictured there. The book is from 1892/94 I think so my guess was that this BB or PN was from that time or older.

Is there any more info around?
When did they appear and untill when were they used?

erikscollectables · 14th October 2010, 07:09 PM

Here is the picture I meant from 1892/94 in the text by Schmeltz.

Regards, Erik

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Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Its a beautiful weapon. I'm not familiar with the construction of these, but I'd have thought it a prime candidate for a gentle etch! hardened edge?

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Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Nice Piece, Of the few I have handled, I have encountered all having an inserted edge. Gav