Keris Coteng

BluErf · 4th July 2015, 09:31 AM

Thanks! Can I clarify whether you meant the hilt was not correct for the sheath, or that the hilt is considered a coteng hilt?

BluErf · 4th July 2015, 09:33 AM

With so many specimens shown in this thread, it should go down as the Coteng thread to come to for a visual feast. Thanks for sharing them.

maxbliss888 · 4th July 2015, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BluErf

Thanks! Can I clarify whether you meant the hilt was not correct for the sheath, or that the hilt is considered a coteng hilt?

Hi!

According to some serious collectors, as the hilt is made of wood, some tends to get damage over time and often got replaced. In this instance, it can be either be a situation where the Coteng hilt has been replaced with a Tajong. Alternatively, it may be a situation where a Tajong Keris has been matched with a Coteng shield. The suggestion from the collectors are either One quick way is to change the hilt or shield.

Cheers

BluErf · 5th July 2015, 12:29 PM

Ok, thanks for the clarification!

Another piece I'd like to ask about - this coteng came back from Europe. The sheath form is different frm most coteng we see. I associate this sheath form as an older form closer to the original coastal Javanese keris forms from which I think the coteng evolved. What does your collector friends think?

maxbliss888 · 5th July 2015, 05:05 PM

Yes, it's the old Coteng shield...with the influence Javanese art cirebon.

maxbliss888 · 5th July 2015, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by maxbliss888

Yes, it's the old Coteng shield...with the influence Javanese art cirebon.

Please see below comparison

Sajen · 5th July 2015, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by maxbliss888

Please see below comparison

Hello Max,

the scabbard on the right isn't a Cirebon one but a Coteng scabbard IMHO. Can you post a photo of both from the other side?

Regards,
Detlef

maxbliss888 · 6th July 2015, 12:08 PM

Hi!

I am not saying that it's a Cirebon one but with Javanese influences..

BluErf · 10th July 2015, 01:52 AM

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Please see below comparison

Beautiful sheath!

maxbliss888 · 10th July 2015, 03:54 PM

Nice pair from a collector

BluErf · 10th July 2015, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by maxbliss888

Yes, it's the old Coteng shield...with the influence Javanese art cirebon.

Thanks Francis, for affirming my thinking. The hilt on this coteng has sone really sublime carvings. The form is also extra "rounded". Very pleasing piece.

5th July 2015, 12:29 PM	#4
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Ok, thanks for the clarification! Another piece I'd like to ask about - this coteng came back from Europe. The sheath form is different frm most coteng we see. I associate this sheath form as an older form closer to the original coastal Javanese keris forms from which I think the coteng evolved. What does your collector friends think? Attached Images

5th July 2015, 05:05 PM	#5
maxbliss888 Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Bangkok Posts: 150	Coteng Yes, it's the old Coteng shield...with the influence Javanese art cirebon. Attached Images

6th July 2015, 12:08 PM	#8
maxbliss888 Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Bangkok Posts: 150	Coteng Hi! I am not saying that it's a Cirebon one but with Javanese influences..

10th July 2015, 03:54 PM	#10
maxbliss888 Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Bangkok Posts: 150	Coating from Southrn Thai Nice pair from a collector Attached Images

4th July 2015, 09:31 AM	#1
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Thanks! Can I clarify whether you meant the hilt was not correct for the sheath, or that the hilt is considered a coteng hilt?

4th July 2015, 09:33 AM	#2
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	With so many specimens shown in this thread, it should go down as the Coteng thread to come to for a visual feast. Thanks for sharing them.