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11th February 2024, 08:00 PM | #1 |
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So it's probably an old East Javanese blade.
Are long blades over 40cm common in East Java? Is it possible to relate it stylistically more precisely to a Tanghu? I am aware that it is very worn and that the Greneng as well as the Kembang Kacang have disappeared. |
11th February 2024, 08:23 PM | #2 |
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I do incline to East Jawa for this blade, but there are insufficient indicators to be too definite about that. What I can be a little more definite about is that I can see nothing in the elements of style or construction that point to it having been made in Bali itself.
Tangguh is an opinion on origin, it is a classification system that uses certain indicators to form the basis for an opinion on where the blade might have originated. We normally use about a dozen or so indicators, and only a couple of those indicators rely completely on the appearance of the blade, I cannot give a firm opinion on this blade from just a photo on a computer screen. |
11th February 2024, 08:59 PM | #3 |
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Alan, i am curious what you thoughts might be on my blade concerning origin. As i stated, the dress seems to have been made for it, but i remain on the fence regarding where the blade may have been made.
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11th February 2024, 10:11 PM | #4 |
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Pretty much the same as for Athanase David, except that if I look at it as a whole I'd incline more to Lombok.
The reason for this variation is that Athanase's blade does have a couple of indicators that are Mojo in style --- not age, but style, the upright blumbangan, the slow luk. Your blade has a squarish blumbangan, still has slow luk, similar pamor, but it does not look even vaguely Mojoish to my eye. Lombok had a population of people from Jawa, Bali, Bugis & of course the Sasaks. In my opinion, more likely to be Lombok, but there is nothing that waves a Bali flag. Like much to do with keris, its just opinion, & opinions rest upon experience. Somebody with equal but different experience to my own could have a different opinion. |
12th February 2024, 10:09 AM | #5 |
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An other one I got from one of our famous member !
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12th February 2024, 10:28 AM | #6 |
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12th February 2024, 01:30 PM | #7 |
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Hello David,
Have you overlooked my question in #5? |
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