identification of Indonesian knife.

chregu · 6th February 2014, 07:01 PM

Hi

ask for more accurate identification of Indonesian knife.

thanks for your help

greeting Chregu

T. Koch · 6th February 2014, 07:41 PM

Hi Chregu,

IMO it is from left to right in your first pic up there: Kabeala from Sumbawa Island; Next one I'd like to see more pics of before giving my opinion; Sewar (Batak) from Sumatra; another Sewar from Sumatra; a Golok from Jawa.

If you can post some closeups of the Kabeala hilt, we might also be able to work out the type of ivory.

Cheers, Thor

chregu · 6th February 2014, 08:03 PM

Hello Thor

Thank you for first.

more photos

greeting Chregu

Sajen · 6th February 2014, 08:35 PM

Agree with Thor, with the exception that I wouldn't call the one at the complete right kabeala. It's a short sword or golok from Sumbawa. Kabeala are from Sumba IMHO.
Second one in the line is a short pedang from Sumatra IMO.
Can you post dimensions please? Either the two on the left and the golok from Java are very short or the two sewar are very long.

The first sewar don't need to be from the Batak, I doubt a little bit.
I think the ivory at the Sumbawa piece is hippo tusk.
Very nice pieces!

Regards,

Detlef

chregu · 10th February 2014, 01:27 PM

Hello Detlef

Thank you for your answer

to know the lengths of the various knife, I must first return to the museum.
'll but certainly do, because I want an answer.

greeting Chregu

Sajen · 10th February 2014, 07:01 PM

My Sumbawa sword/golok was shown in this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=sumbawa
It is 59 cm long inside the scabbard, my longest sewar is 36 cm long. Just for your information.

Regards,

Detlef

chregu · 11th February 2014, 08:32 AM

Hello

Thank thor and Sajen, for your help!
The Golok has a length of 39cm, sword? poor sword!

both Sewar 35cm.
More pictures from the Golok from Sumbawa Island
Ivory handle the eyes are green stones.

Sajen · 11th February 2014, 07:51 PM

It is very nice! I wouldn't call it sword, maybe golok is more fittingly. The blade form is really (like Thor write) more similar like by Sumba blades. When I find the time I will show you a similar blade form from Sumba. Handle material is indeed hippo tusk. Very nice knife!

Regards,

Detlef

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chregu Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: switzerland Posts: 298	Hello Thor Thank you for first. more photos greeting Chregu Attached Images

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chregu Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: switzerland Posts: 298	Hello Thank thor and Sajen, for your help! The Golok has a length of 39cm, sword? poor sword! both Sewar 35cm. More pictures from the Golok from Sumbawa Island Ivory handle the eyes are green stones. Attached Images Last edited by chregu; 11th February 2014 at 08:53 AM.

6th February 2014, 07:41 PM	#2
T. Koch Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Mother North Posts: 189	Hi Chregu, IMO it is from left to right in your first pic up there: Kabeala from Sumbawa Island; Next one I'd like to see more pics of before giving my opinion; Sewar (Batak) from Sumatra; another Sewar from Sumatra; a Golok from Jawa. If you can post some closeups of the Kabeala hilt, we might also be able to work out the type of ivory. Cheers, Thor

6th February 2014, 08:35 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,469	Agree with Thor, with the exception that I wouldn't call the one at the complete right kabeala. It's a short sword or golok from Sumbawa. Kabeala are from Sumba IMHO. Second one in the line is a short pedang from Sumatra IMO. Can you post dimensions please? Either the two on the left and the golok from Java are very short or the two sewar are very long. The first sewar don't need to be from the Batak, I doubt a little bit. I think the ivory at the Sumbawa piece is hippo tusk. Very nice pieces! Regards, Detlef

10th February 2014, 01:27 PM	#5
chregu Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: switzerland Posts: 298	Hello Detlef Thank you for your answer to know the lengths of the various knife, I must first return to the museum. 'll but certainly do, because I want an answer. greeting Chregu

10th February 2014, 07:01 PM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,469	My Sumbawa sword/golok was shown in this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=sumbawa It is 59 cm long inside the scabbard, my longest sewar is 36 cm long. Just for your information. Regards, Detlef

11th February 2014, 07:51 PM	#8
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,469	It is very nice! I wouldn't call it sword, maybe golok is more fittingly. The blade form is really (like Thor write) more similar like by Sumba blades. When I find the time I will show you a similar blade form from Sumba. Handle material is indeed hippo tusk. Very nice knife! Regards, Detlef