Help please

Marcus · 3rd January 2007, 05:49 PM

The two knives pictured below are from the estate of a dear friend. I am trying to help his widow appraise his effects. Can anyone please help me identify these pieces and give her a general sense of their value. The blades on each do appear to be wootz.

Thanks,
Marcus

RhysMichael · 4th January 2007, 12:04 AM

A jambiya and a kard perhaps. You can find examples of both on Artzi's site and I have always felt his prices were fair. Appraisals are not allowed on the forum but some members may choose to PM you about them. They look very nice

Battara · 4th January 2007, 01:26 AM

Yes I agree - both are jambiya and a kard and both from Persia. Unusual forms of these and very nice. Both have ivory hilts. The jambiya looks to have copper mounts, but they may have been gilded at one time.

ariel · 4th January 2007, 01:53 AM

Isn't it Khanjar instead of jambiya?
And, BTW, its scabbard is bizarre: so tastelessly ornate...

Rick · 4th January 2007, 02:31 AM

Isn't this form only known as Jambiya on the Arabian Peninsula; everywhere else it is called Kanjar?
This looks, to my uneducated eye like Indian work.
Anyone?

RhysMichael · 4th January 2007, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

Isn't it Khanjar instead of jambiya?
And, BTW, its scabbard is bizarre: so tastelessly ornate...

Jambiya/Khanjar/Khanjarli/hancer, I have never been too clear on the division, Arzi calls some indian knives on his site Khanjar. I have also heard that only in Saudi is the term Jambiya used but I could be way off base on that. Again from memory and I could be way off. Isn't Jambiya an arab term and Khanjar farsi ?

ward · 4th January 2007, 02:59 AM

It is a kanjar and a kard. kanjar is a arabic word it means dagger. and yes jambiya's are from Saudi

Battara · 5th January 2007, 12:07 AM

Oh yeah.....I forgot.

3rd January 2007, 05:49 PM	#1
Marcus Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 420	Help please The two knives pictured below are from the estate of a dear friend. I am trying to help his widow appraise his effects. Can anyone please help me identify these pieces and give her a general sense of their value. The blades on each do appear to be wootz. Thanks, Marcus Attached Images

4th January 2007, 02:59 AM	#7
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	It is a kanjar and a kard. kanjar is a arabic word it means dagger. and yes jambiya's are from Saudi Last edited by ward; 4th January 2007 at 03:09 AM.

4th January 2007, 12:04 AM	#2
RhysMichael Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 520	A jambiya and a kard perhaps. You can find examples of both on Artzi's site and I have always felt his prices were fair. Appraisals are not allowed on the forum but some members may choose to PM you about them. They look very nice

4th January 2007, 01:26 AM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	Yes I agree - both are jambiya and a kard and both from Persia. Unusual forms of these and very nice. Both have ivory hilts. The jambiya looks to have copper mounts, but they may have been gilded at one time.

4th January 2007, 01:53 AM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Isn't it Khanjar instead of jambiya? And, BTW, its scabbard is bizarre: so tastelessly ornate...

4th January 2007, 02:31 AM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	Isn't this form only known as Jambiya on the Arabian Peninsula; everywhere else it is called Kanjar? This looks, to my uneducated eye like Indian work. Anyone?

5th January 2007, 12:07 AM	#8
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	Oh yeah.....I forgot.