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Old 13th June 2022, 05:00 PM   #1
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Default An unusual Luzon sword.

Unusual to me since I don’t recall ever seeing one that had a similar blade profile.
Blade is close to 25 inches in length.
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Old 13th June 2022, 11:58 PM   #2
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That's a very interesting blade. I'm guessing the assembly was pre-1900 Central Luzon, Spanish or First Republic era. The fuller feature is curious- probably a one-of customization requested by the owner who's encountered Moro blades with such (the fuller outline reminds me of those on kris). Is there a false edge? I'm still on the fence whether the blade is also pure Luzon or something modified from Visayas (Luzon blades for that era are assymetrical edge grind- which I call a "fake" chisel. Visayas blades are "true" chisel edge grind).
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Old 14th June 2022, 03:41 AM   #3
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The false edge measures at ~10 inches.
According to The seller, Peter A., this was collected in the 19th century.
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Old 14th June 2022, 05:33 AM   #4
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The down-turned quillion and fuller suggest a Chinese influence to me. Also, does anyone think the bade may have been reworked or shortened a bit. The fuller just seems to trail off into the tip.
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Makes me wonder, it seems fuller is a very rare or rather unusual feature for Luzon blades, although Tagalog has an archaic native term for it which is sanay, according to Vocabulario de la Lengua Tagala.
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The down-turned quillion and fuller suggest a Chinese influence to me.
The down turned quillion does look Chinese influenced.
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Old 17th June 2022, 11:13 AM   #7
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From the pics, the fullers look to be beautifully executed.
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