Persian Stirrups?

erikscollectables · 10th October 2009, 08:11 PM

After a mail discussion with another forum member I thought let's ask this question here.

I have a pair of stirrups.

What do I know? They were acquired in Iran before 1975 (by a family friend whose estate came partially in my posession).

A collector I know attributed them indeed as Persian and 17th or 18th century.

This is not my field at all (only Indonesian weapons) so I would like to hear if anybody on the forum knows more.

Any input is welcome!

Regards, Erik

colin henshaw · 11th October 2009, 07:31 AM

Hi

They could be from Morocco...

Regards

Dom · 11th October 2009, 12:35 PM

Hi Colin

only Morocco ... too much restrictive, at my point of view

in fact we found this shape in most of countries where Arab they were residing

the acute angle corners, was used as well as spurs, the Arabs wasn't bearing boots, able to be equiped with it

à +

Dom

colin henshaw · 11th October 2009, 02:36 PM

Hi Erik & Dom

Thought you might be interested to see these...I believe them to be from the Sahel region, so maybe Hausa or Fulani etc ?

Do you know of any reference material on stirrups/horse equipment apart from Stone's Glossary ?

Regards
Colin

erikscollectables · 11th October 2009, 05:10 PM

I have had a quick look on the internet for arab stirrups.
The ones I have seem to be a bit more "luxury" than most.

The hanging part is a bit more decorated.
Also the corner parts do not seem to be standard.
And of course the inlay which to me seems quite simple but well done.

However this does not date them for me nor places them in a specific region yet.

Dom · 11th October 2009, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erikscollectables

I have had a quick look on the internet for arab stirrups.

keep cool ... man, and drink fresh

they will not runaway

- pics (2) for egyptian stirrups model,
are, what I bought 20 years ago, in a bedawi shop
1 of pic, it's not mine, because that pair is in Egypt, and I don't have a pic
but, exactly the same; cast metal, bronze (?)

- other pics are from a book (with me

)
" l'Art des Chevaliers en Pays d'Islam "
collection de la Furussiyya Art Foundation
Institu du Monde Arabe - Paris - France

all pictures have a legend, and I think you will have matter of reflexion

à +

Dom

Gavin Nugent · 11th October 2009, 10:44 PM

Dom,

Nice to see that nice Saif make a guest appearance too.
Thank you too for sharing your knowledge on the stirups.

Gav

ward · 11th October 2009, 10:55 PM

http://www.auctionflex.com/showlot.a...ction=&lang=En

A very similar pair. These stirrups are somewhat generic in the ottoman influence as mentioned.

erikscollectables · 12th October 2009, 05:46 PM

Indeed a very similair pair!
Thanks for the link.

Regards, Erik

Quote:

Originally Posted by ward

http://www.auctionflex.com/showlot.a...ction=&lang=En

A very similar pair. These stirrups are somewhat generic in the ottoman influence as mentioned.

10th October 2009, 08:11 PM	#1
erikscollectables Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 318	Persian Stirrups? After a mail discussion with another forum member I thought let's ask this question here. I have a pair of stirrups. What do I know? They were acquired in Iran before 1975 (by a family friend whose estate came partially in my posession). A collector I know attributed them indeed as Persian and 17th or 18th century. This is not my field at all (only Indonesian weapons) so I would like to hear if anybody on the forum knows more. Any input is welcome! Regards, Erik Attached Images

11th October 2009, 02:36 PM	#4
colin henshaw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,430	Hi Erik & Dom Thought you might be interested to see these...I believe them to be from the Sahel region, so maybe Hausa or Fulani etc ? Do you know of any reference material on stirrups/horse equipment apart from Stone's Glossary ? Regards Colin Attached Images

11th October 2009, 10:44 PM	#7
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Saif Dom, Nice to see that nice Saif make a guest appearance too. Thank you too for sharing your knowledge on the stirups. Gav

11th October 2009, 07:31 AM	#2
colin henshaw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,430	Hi They could be from Morocco... Regards

11th October 2009, 12:35 PM	#3
Dom Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Paris (FR*) Cairo (EG) Posts: 1,142	Hi Colin only Morocco ... too much restrictive, at my point of view in fact we found this shape in most of countries where Arab they were residing the acute angle corners, was used as well as spurs, the Arabs wasn't bearing boots, able to be equiped with it à + Dom

11th October 2009, 05:10 PM	#5
erikscollectables Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 318	I have had a quick look on the internet for arab stirrups. The ones I have seem to be a bit more "luxury" than most. The hanging part is a bit more decorated. Also the corner parts do not seem to be standard. And of course the inlay which to me seems quite simple but well done. However this does not date them for me nor places them in a specific region yet.

11th October 2009, 10:55 PM	#8
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	http://www.auctionflex.com/showlot.a...ction=&lang=En A very similar pair. These stirrups are somewhat generic in the ottoman influence as mentioned.