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Old 3rd August 2007, 08:13 PM   #1
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and their provenance was misattributed to Dr. David Darom.
No misattribution at all.
Dar Darom was the photographer.
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Old 3rd August 2007, 09:45 PM   #2
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Yes one of the best Persian examples I have seen! Congratulations!
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Old 4th August 2007, 12:18 PM   #3
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hi all
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Old 4th August 2007, 09:24 PM   #4
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The Persian influence was very strong in India, the court spoke Farsi (Persian), Persian style and decoration motifs were widely copied, style or arms and armor was also copied. Also, relics from the time of Muhammad were highly valued too. Just look at the sword of Babur at the Met, Museum of Art, it has a fblade with square kufic script used at the time of Muhammad, Babur names is chiseled into the cross guard.

The floral decoration, especially the birds look very Persian influenced, being that the Mughals also copied Persian costume its hard to say who was wearing what. But the blade looks very Mughal influenced and more to the taste of an Indian (Mughal).

It gets into the realm of what if a Persian makes a blade for a Mughal while in India, with an Indian style blade, but opts for a Persain hilt style, the floral decoration done to the most favored flower of the current Raja. Is this Mughal? Indian? Persian? All of them? None of them? Does the blade determine origen? Does the hilt determine origen? Does the desiign motif of the decoration determine origen? No simple answer here that I see. Must be why you see that word "Indo" so much, or "Sino". Next it will be IndoSino....hmmmmm, IndiSino? Now that covers about everything!

No matter what its a very nice dagger that stands on its own.....

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Old 4th August 2007, 11:44 PM   #5
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There is nothing in the images represented on the grips nor in the pattern of the goldwork on the blade which suggest anything other than Persian workmanship. The form of the blade, and the pattern of the wootz from which it is forged, may indicate N. Indian workmanship, however.
The carved, oversized grips and quality of the goldwork suggest a latter 19th century Persian remounting of an earlier, possibly Mughal, blade.
Overall a very nice example, congratulations.

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Old 4th August 2007, 11:49 PM   #6
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Next it will be IndoSino....hmmmmm, IndiSino? Now that covers about everything!

No matter what its a very nice dagger that stands on its own.....

rand (sinoing off) and very ( Indocisive)
It is already used: Indochina
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