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Old 1st November 2010, 08:06 PM   #1
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Default Hungarian saber 15thC

Hi All,

I received a nice S-shaped Hungarian??? saber and have a few questions, maybe somebody can help;
- is this type also used in other countries fa Italy?
- has somebody seen the triple shield-cross mark on 15thC arms before somewhere?

thanks+regards from Holland
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Old 1st November 2010, 08:21 PM   #2
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Hi Cornelis,

Very fine piece in any case, congratulations!

I cannot tell for sure either but surmise that the style is characteristically Italian and may have soon been adopted by Hungary.

I reworked the detail showing the cross and shield blade mark struck three times in the Late Gothic tradition. Will ask my friend and be back.

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Old 1st November 2010, 08:48 PM   #3
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Hi Michael,

thank you very much , I will await your answer.

kind regards from Holland
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Old 2nd November 2010, 05:58 PM   #4
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Also interested in the opinions of other fellow-collectors of course
please feel free to comment.
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Old 3rd November 2010, 03:04 AM   #5
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Hi Cornelis,

This is a 15th Century Hungarian saber, here is a similar one from Pg 30 of Ubojite Ostrice . This blade style (single fuller with prominent yelman) carried on in Hungary and later Poland into the late 16th century. I am not sure of the maker marks, I will see if i can find anything similar. I will enclose a close up of the mark on the pictured saber.

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Old 3rd November 2010, 03:05 AM   #6
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Here you are, Cornelis,

My friend Ottmar thinks this an extremely fine and rare original and characteristic Venetian saber, ca. 1470 - so congrats once more!

Just in case that my fading eyes overlooked it: what is the overall length of the item? It might be a one-and-a-half saber!

Best to Holland from a cold and rainy Bavaria,
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Old 3rd November 2010, 09:16 AM   #7
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Hi Jeff,
thanks for the info and nice picture.

Hi Michael,
thanks for the info that it can be venetian.
this saber can be used with one or two hands.
the grip is 14cm
all over length is 98cm
blade is 78cm
pommel 5x5cm
weight is 1130gr

the only similar I could find is in Mueller/koelling/platow and discrubed as Hungarian end of 15thC. another one sold at Sothebys in 2002.
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