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Old 30th January 2019, 04:56 PM   #1
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Default Miquelet Lock Pistol end 17th c

Dear all,

a couple of month ago I aquired this pistol, which is likely Italian (Brescia?) and from the end of the 17th century (other opinions warmly appreciated). The first part of the shaft was missing, so I used the long evenings nowadays to replace it.
I like the metal fittings with the dragon heads and the grotesque head at the knob and the guard.
Does anyone know the marking on the lock?

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Old 30th January 2019, 09:08 PM   #2
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Of course it's Italian. Lock of miquelete, to the Roman, It is very old, for the length of the cannon, of the middle / ends of the 17th century. Regarding P. F. I am going to bucar if I find something in my papers

The stone screw seems not to be original

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Old 31st January 2019, 10:04 AM   #3
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In Agostino Gaibi, Armi da Fuoco Italiane there is an extensive list of Italian gunmakers from 1500-1850. I found there three gunmakers with the initials "PF" working in the time from ca. 1660 to 1720. These are

FRANCESE, Paolo, Brescia 1675-1700
FRASSINI, Pietro, Brescia 1698-1734
FORNAZI, Pietro Paolo, Brescia 1650-1685.

The pistol is certainly made in the years between 1680 and 1700, a very similar one is pictured in the above book under n183. This was made by Agostino BARBAGLI in Brescia ca 1680. Its calibre is 12mm. From the foto you can see how the cock should look like.
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Old 31st January 2019, 11:54 AM   #4
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Hey There,

great! Thanks for the answers and the information on the possible makers. If I should guess, I would say it was made by Mr Francese, as his (working?) dates fit best. Foranzi would be a bit too early and maybe would have put a second P as his initials. Frassini was a bit too late.

The calibre of this gun here is also 12mm.

Sure, the screw is not the original one. But it seems to be there since a long time. So it somehow belongs to the gun.

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Old 31st January 2019, 03:59 PM   #5
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Hi Andreas.

That is a very nice, early Italian pistol. Congratulations.

A question: Is the lock a three (3) screw lockplate ? Looks like one of the lockplate screws is missing.

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Old 31st January 2019, 04:18 PM   #6
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The third screw was used to fix the waist hook, here missing

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Old 1st February 2019, 03:18 PM   #7
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OK. Thanks Fernando K. I should have thought of this.

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Old 1st February 2019, 08:06 PM   #8
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Fernando K has a lot of knowledge of these things ... and a sharp eye .
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Fernando K has a lot of knowledge of these things ... and a sharp eye .

Much agreed !!

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Old 4th February 2019, 11:09 AM   #10
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Hey there,

indeed it is just two screws. I was wondering for what that third "rivet" is for. Thanks for the clrification that it was part of the belt hook!

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