The one that got away

Lew · 29th July 2009, 09:48 PM

Here is a great story? The seller told me it was given to his grandfather by a South African Bushman in 1924. Too bad the dagger seems more recent than 1880 as the seller claims(1950s most likely) and it's from North Africa. I told him I was not born yesterday

katana · 30th July 2009, 12:42 AM

Vincent Price ??? Should be High Price

Atlantia · 30th July 2009, 01:03 AM

Sorry, but what am I missing here? I collect film props and although not familiar with this film, its 'usual' to show or at least talk about how the piece was used in the film?
Looking at the auction he doesn't seem to connect the object with the film?
was his father prop-master on the film, was it used in the film? Are these just random objects thrown together?
Am I having a senior moment?

Lew · 30th July 2009, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Atlantia

Sorry, but what am I missing here? I collect film props and although not familiar with this film, its 'usual' to show or at least talk about how the piece was used in the film?
Looking at the auction he doesn't seem to connect the object with the film?
was his father prop-master on the film, was it used in the film? Are these just random objects thrown together?
Am I having a senior moment?

You are correct there is no connection between the all the pieces

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Jim McDougall · 30th July 2009, 04:00 AM

I never cease to be amazed at the theatrical fluff used to market items being sold. Without checking resources, I would say this dagger is probably from Cameroon or West African regions, probably not the North African regions implied. I have not seen the movie, but most movies that are based on Poe stories have little to do with the actual stories, using the titles for leverage.

Supposedly, the individual housed in the tower in the story was horrifically maimed by some African tribe......what tribe? where? and how in the world is this some ritual dagger?

I have never thought of Bushmen in Cameroon, nor in North Africa, nor these type daggers as ritual or ceremonial...simply typical accoutrements of daily wear in West African regions..... what would a South African bushman be doing with this dagger? Is this the kind of dagger shown in the movie?

I have little which belonged to my grandparents, but the things I have I would not consider selling regardless of the money I might get. Most of these things have great sentimental value, but monetarily mean little. I can always get a couple of hundred bucks...but the item...never could be replaced.
Just my perspective, not meant to minimize others who chose to dispose of family relics to answer financial needs. We're all there one time or another.

Its just that the old story, ....I just inherited this....gets old.

Best regards,
Jim

Lew · 30th July 2009, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

I never cease to be amazed at the theatrical fluff used to market items being sold. Without checking resources, I would say this dagger is probably from Cameroon or West African regions, probably not the North African regions implied.

Best regards,
Jim

Jim

The dagger is Tebu and they are from the Niger/Chad region of Africa.

29th July 2009, 09:48 PM	#1
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	The one that got away Here is a great story? The seller told me it was given to his grandfather by a South African Bushman in 1924. Too bad the dagger seems more recent than 1880 as the seller claims(1950s most likely) and it's from North Africa. I told him I was not born yesterday Last edited by Rick; 3rd August 2009 at 02:11 PM.

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katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	Vincent Price ??? Should be High Price

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Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Sorry, but what am I missing here? I collect film props and although not familiar with this film, its 'usual' to show or at least talk about how the piece was used in the film? Looking at the auction he doesn't seem to connect the object with the film? was his father prop-master on the film, was it used in the film? Are these just random objects thrown together? Am I having a senior moment?

30th July 2009, 04:00 AM	#5
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,738	I never cease to be amazed at the theatrical fluff used to market items being sold. Without checking resources, I would say this dagger is probably from Cameroon or West African regions, probably not the North African regions implied. I have not seen the movie, but most movies that are based on Poe stories have little to do with the actual stories, using the titles for leverage. Supposedly, the individual housed in the tower in the story was horrifically maimed by some African tribe......what tribe? where? and how in the world is this some ritual dagger? I have never thought of Bushmen in Cameroon, nor in North Africa, nor these type daggers as ritual or ceremonial...simply typical accoutrements of daily wear in West African regions..... what would a South African bushman be doing with this dagger? Is this the kind of dagger shown in the movie? I have little which belonged to my grandparents, but the things I have I would not consider selling regardless of the money I might get. Most of these things have great sentimental value, but monetarily mean little. I can always get a couple of hundred bucks...but the item...never could be replaced. Just my perspective, not meant to minimize others who chose to dispose of family relics to answer financial needs. We're all there one time or another. Its just that the old story, ....I just inherited this....gets old. Best regards, Jim